Palace v City post match thread.

[kawkav]

is there anyone in this entire forum who though having two up front with navas and clichy trying and failing to supply them was the right thing to do.




we should of started with milner and played one up front, and nasri instead of navas.




sack him now and put paddy in charge with brian kidd.

Nasri instead of Navas?? Are you having a laugh. Navas is far from good enough don't get me wrong but when was the last tine Nasri did anything. He's an absolute disgrace and should never have the privilege of pulling on that blue shirt ever again.

When Nasri is the solution I dread to think what the problem is!!

the only goal came off Nasri move

 

[cleavers]

I am about certain that many of these posters just desperately hope to see an appalling, catastrophic result merely so they can come on here and slag Pellers for, what? Failure to be Roberto Mancini and failure to clone Jimmy Lad Milner four times and play them all in a packed midfield I guess.

That said, the man seems a class act and did a fantastic job last year. But seems to have utterly lacked a plan B to basically the same tactics being played against us all season.

And five Jimmy Lad Milners or not, the glacially slow tippy tappy sideways shite has not been working for a long time. Do I pretend to know what is the answer? No, because I am an internet poster. But someone sure as fuck needs to have an answer and an alternative approach because it like a depressing rerun week after week in watching us this year.

Good post is that :)

 

[Paladin]

How about 11/11/12, City 2 (Aguero 65, Dzeko 88), Spurs 1 (Caulker 21).

Or 16/03/2008, City 2 (Ireland 59, Onuoha 61), Spurs 1 (Keane 32).

Here's another. City 4 (Anelka 48, 68, 83, Tarnat 50), Villa 1 (Angel 31).

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Officials have cost us again dzeko apart thought we want to bad!

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

is it safe to come on here yet ? Not much wrong with that performance , we played well , dominated the game , we went down to an off side goal , despite what the sky pundits want us to believe . We again dominated the 2nd half , denied a stone wall penalty for hand ball . We are just not getting the breaks , we were quite simply robbed . They say incorrect decisions even up over a season , well it better start at the cess pit on Sunday , because the way our luck is going at the moment , i can see a sending off in the first 5 minutes , and at least one dodgy penalty for the rags.

 

[sjd43]

We are losing too many games to opposition that have less quality but defend as a team and are hard to break down. Build up play is too slow allowing opposition to get back behind ball, too many passes at times and not varied or direct enough. Not creative enough in the changing the style of our attacks.

Pellegrini doesn't have an answer or strategy to get around it in many cases and seems too stubborn to change things when losing games or personal battles on the field. He also keeps persisting with players that are not producing the consistent quality football. Too many are not fighting or grafting for him or the team. I think we won the title last year despite him not because of him. I think if we'd have had any other top 4 manager in his place we'd have won the league by a larger margin. I think he needs to be replaced sooner rather than later.

Dzeko - Way too casual with the ball and his passes giving it away too often, can't hold it up and needs too many chances to score the goals he does (when he does).
Navas - A winger who has speed, helps defend but can't cross a ball either on the run or from a dead ball situation.
Yaya - Not fit enough or disciplined enough in midfield against better teams. Better to play Fernando and Fernandinho holding in midfield and include Yaya in the players fighting for the other three positions (assuming Aguero plays).
Key players like Kompany, Hart and Aguero - quality players but searching for a bit of form.

Come on City! With the players we have the team performances should be a lot better than the current form.

 

[Goater=Legend]

So that's Palace, Hull, Burnley and QPR we have struggled to beat.

Shocking stuff.

 

[citytill1die84]

Fernandinho for giving a stupid foul away and Yaya for ducking his head when jumping in the wall.

Still why the fuck did he give him the whole goal to aim at?

Attacking move broke down beforehand because of who???
His name begins with E.

What's that have to do with Hart giving Puncheon a full goal to aim at?

 

[Paul_Powers_Tash]

The stats tell the full story. We dominated every one of them apart from the only one that mattered,

The truth is that this season we look like a group of talented players, thrown together and given a football and told to go and work it out, The players are good enough to keep the ball and thus have the lions share of possession, corners etc but against well organised teams we cant make our superior skills and stats count.

For people scratching their heads let me let you into a little secret. Teams win leagues not individuals, and teams are created on the training ground by the manager. Teams play in certain ways that maximise the opportunity at that particular time/situation and minimise the threat. This is done by group habit and not individual choice. Group habits are built, refined and ingrained on the training pitch by a manager with vision who knows what he is doing..

When Mancini took over he upset Tevez, Bellend and co because he made them train and practice without a football. He drilled it into the players where he expected them to be and what he expected them to do in given situations. These drills were designed to inflict the maximum damage on the opposition dependent of the oppositions strengths and weaknesses while minimising the oppositions potential to hurt us. Only when they understood this did he give the players a ball to play with.

This is nothing new or revolutionary but is an absolute per-requisite if you want to win the highest honors in the game.

What we are seeing from Pellegrini is absolutely not this. There is no game plan uniquely devised to maximise the tools/players at the managers disposal considering the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition. There is no preset, co-ordinated patterns of play to create maximum havoc in the opposition defence.

The very fact that despite the enormous size and strength of the team it takes us over 300 attempts before we score from a corner demonstrates as vividly as anything else that the manager has no plan beyond picking a different group of good players each game and asking them to go and do their best.

People say we have been found out and teams know how to play against us. The truth is the manager has been found out.

Well put sir! The best reply tonight on this forum.

Seconded!
I said pretty much the same in an earlier post.
Pellegrini is out of synch with the requirements of the premier league.
We don't have to become clones of Mourinho's style ( win at all costs) , but there is plenty of Middle ground to occupy.
A bit of style and a lot of belief- instilled by your manager.

I think I know a manager who might have been able to do that. If only Mancini had been given the signings he requested rather than the dross that Marwood gave for him our recent history could have been so different. That was the turning point where we blew our chances of joining the elite. Three titles in three years and major progress in the Champions League would have definitely have followed. Mancini knew it and couldn't contain his anger and disappointment, he's a winner rather than a yes man. And now the rags are above us despite the turbulent season they have had they will add a couple of top top quality additions next season and challenge Chelsea for the title, We need to improve to stay with them but sadly Pellegrini has proven beyond all doubt to me that he cannot do that.

 

[aguerooooo]

second goal Hart made puncheon a tempting offer ........he took it