Palestinian Boy Kidnapped and Murdered.

[CITYBOY1000]

And now, for some reason the world condemns Israel.

It's because we all hate Jews.

Skashion is of course joking but there is a lot of hatred of the Jews and I've never understood why.

I worked at a Jewish firm back in the 1990s. Treated me like a gent.

They work hard, pay their dues to society, behave themselves. Never see their kids hanging around town in gangs looking to kick-off. No child grooming rings that I've heard of.

Can anyone tell me what the 'problem' is, even if you aren't of that Jew-hater persuasion ? Am I missing something obvious ?

 

[BigOscar]

And now, for some reason the world condemns Israel.

It's because we all hate Jews.

Skashion is of course joking but there is a lot of hatred of the Jews and I've never understood why.

I worked at a Jewish firm back in the 1990s. Treated me like a gent.

They work hard, pay their dues to society, behave themselves. Never see their kids hanging around town in gangs looking to kick-off. No child grooming rings that I've heard of.

Can anyone tell me what the 'problem' is, even if you aren't of that Jew-hater persuasion ? Am I missing something obvious ?

I think the anti-Jewish thing is hugely played up, particularly by the Israeli government, to protect themselves from criticism. I have no objection to jews as a people or as a religion, but I have serious issues with the Israeli government and the way it uses Judaism as a blank cheque to commit atrocities. (if someone does accuse them of anything, it's never long before the anti-semitism card is thrown) I'd far rather judge them solely on their actions and completely ignore their religious persuasions, but unfrotunately people seem unwilling to do that.

 

[bluemanc]

It's because we all hate Jews.

Skashion is of course joking but there is a lot of hatred of the Jews and I've never understood why.

I worked at a Jewish firm back in the 1990s. Treated me like a gent.

They work hard, pay their dues to society, behave themselves. Never see their kids hanging around town in gangs looking to kick-off. No child grooming rings that I've heard of.

Can anyone tell me what the 'problem' is, even if you aren't of that Jew-hater persuasion ? Am I missing something obvious ?

I think the anti-Jewish thing is hugely played up, particularly by the Israeli government, to protect themselves from criticism. I have no objection to jews as a people or as a religion, but I have serious issues with the Israeli government and the way it uses Judaism as a blank cheque to commit atrocities. (if someone does accuse them of anything, it's never long before the anti-semitism card is thrown) I'd far rather judge them solely on their actions and completely ignore their religious persuasions, but unfrotunately people seem unwilling to do that.

Israeli government and the way it uses Judaism as a blank cheque to commit atrocities. (if someone does accuse them of anything, it's never long before the anti-semitism card is thrown

Obviously thats not true BUT its certainly true of Muslims.
Its not Israel that are using innocent civilians as human shields & telling them to ignore the clear warnings given about attacks on Hamas rocket sites.

 

[Skashion]

I think the anti-Jewish thing is hugely played up, particularly by the Israeli government, to protect themselves from criticism. I have no objection to jews as a people or as a religion, but I have serious issues with the Israeli government and the way it uses Judaism as a blank cheque to commit atrocities. (if someone does accuse them of anything, it's never long before the anti-semitism card is thrown) I'd far rather judge them solely on their actions and completely ignore their religious persuasions, but unfrotunately people seem unwilling to do that.

I don't believe anti-Semitism is the main cause of the criticism of Israel. I also say you're right in that the Israeli government is very exploitative of anti-Semitism in general. However, to the Jewish community at large, there I have enormous sympathy, at the horrendous ant-Semitism they've endured since time immemorial. The Jews have suffered horrific persecution for thousands of years. That has resulted in a mentality, especially in the aftermath of the Holocaust, that there must be a Jewish state for self-protection. I can relate to that and I can agree to it. For the foreseeable future, and I don't like admitting this as a secularist, there needs to be a Jewish state. But there needs to be a Palestinian state too. They cannot be expected to endure endless occupation, although I fear that is their fate.

 

[Skashion]

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Its not Israel that are using innocent civilians as human shields

That's simply not true. Israel has a long record of using human shields. Indeed the Israeli Supreme Court banned it and the Israeli Ministry of Defence and IDF appealed it. The ban has mostly been ignored and you can find plenty of evidence to the fact from the likes of Amnesty International and from former IDF soldiers on Breaking the Silence. There is a subcategory especially for it called Human Shields. I'll post the videos directly if you want.

 

[-dabz-]

And now, for some reason the world condemns Israel.

It's because we all hate Jews.

Skashion is of course joking but there is a lot of hatred of the Jews and I've never understood why.

I worked at a Jewish firm back in the 1990s. Treated me like a gent.

They work hard, pay their dues to society, behave themselves. Never see their kids hanging around town in gangs looking to kick-off. No child grooming rings that I've heard of.

Can anyone tell me what the 'problem' is, even if you aren't of that Jew-hater persuasion ? Am I missing something obvious ?

I can say the same thing about an Iranian guy I worked for for ten years.
He was the kindest most considerate person you could wish to meet.
A true gentleman in every sense of the word.
He had to leave Iran risking the lives of his wife and children to escape, when, in his words- "the beards took over".
Working with him made me realise people are people, just getting by like everyone else any where in the world. He was in his late fifties and couldn't give a fuck about religion, neither could his wife.
It makes me sick to the stomach to know there are people in this world that are hell bent on finding any excuse to wipe out my friends family he left behind in Iran.
Oh and by the way, I never once talked about Israel with him.
Oh, and the other thing you mentioned-
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxOQI-3zFk&index=6&list=PLKQiZFFeqvs6Ils3jwgGVyb8AhIkQ8Qa4[/video]

 

[i kne albert davy]

When Hamas kidnapped and murdered 3 Israeli boys, how did they think Israel would respond?
And now, for some reason the world condemns Israel.
Would you react to someone kidnapping and murdering your child?

If some French people did kidnap and murder my niece I wouldn't expect Cameron to start bombing France though. Is it actually confirmed that Hamas did murder those poor boys?

Anyhow Israel bombing Palestine, Hamas bombing Israel it could go on for fucking ever. Even the experts (from both sides) I mentioned in my previous post, who'll know far more than anyone on Bluemoon regards the fucked up situation, couldn't come up with a viable solution.

I'm out.

If some French people did kidnap and murder your niece maybe you wouldn't expect the R.A.F. to attack France perhaps because you would expect the French authorities to pursue arrest and then punish the perpetrators, if on the other hand if the French government condoned or actively encouraged the murder of your niece I think you'd have every right to expect action, even from a Cameron government.
How far from an arrest were the Palestinian Government I wonder.

 

[Skashion]

If some French people did kidnap and murder your niece maybe you wouldn't expect the R.A.F. to attack France perhaps because you would expect the French authorities to pursue arrest and then punish the perpetrators, if on the other hand if the French government condoned or actively encouraged the murder of your niece I think you'd have every right to expect action, even from a Cameron government.
How far from an arrest were the Palestinian Government I wonder.

It wasn't the responsibility of the PNA. These kidnappings happened in a part of the West Bank over which the PNA has no control whatsoever.

 

[-dabz-]

It's because we all hate Jews.

Skashion is of course joking but there is a lot of hatred of the Jews and I've never understood why.

I worked at a Jewish firm back in the 1990s. Treated me like a gent.

They work hard, pay their dues to society, behave themselves. Never see their kids hanging around town in gangs looking to kick-off. No child grooming rings that I've heard of.

Can anyone tell me what the 'problem' is, even if you aren't of that Jew-hater persuasion ? Am I missing something obvious ?

I think the anti-Jewish thing is hugely played up, particularly by the Israeli government, to protect themselves from criticism. I have no objection to jews as a people or as a religion, but I have serious issues with the Israeli government and the way it uses Judaism as a blank cheque to commit atrocities. (if someone does accuse them of anything, it's never long before the anti-semitism card is thrown) I'd far rather judge them solely on their actions and completely ignore their religious persuasions, but unfrotunately people seem unwilling to do that.

Agree, totally.

 

[i kne albert davy]

If some French people did kidnap and murder your niece maybe you wouldn't expect the R.A.F. to attack France perhaps because you would expect the French authorities to pursue arrest and then punish the perpetrators, if on the other hand if the French government condoned or actively encouraged the murder of your niece I think you'd have every right to expect action, even from a Cameron government.
How far from an arrest were the Palestinian Government I wonder.

It wasn't the responsibility of the PNA. These kidnappings happened in a part of the West Bank over which the PNA has no control whatsoever.

I bow to your superior knowledge sir, I thought they were found near Hebron which I thought to be mainly controlled by the Palestinian Authority I shall do further research as to who's in control there.