Pellegrini - Job done ?

Cheesy said:
If his brief was to take us steadily backwards on field then yes, it's job done.
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themanc said:
mid table coach, get mid table results. no back to back wins in the league since oct. shameful.
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Exactly the sort of posts the thread wasn't about, plenty of threads for your thoughts on Pellegrini, this was about what are the clubs thoughts on the job he's done.
 
hilts said:
I think he worded it badly, a mid table coach if manuel is even that will get the best team to under perform more often than they should, where the team finishes in the table depends on the quality of the opposition, this year for example we may win it because of the problems at scum and Chelsea, another season we wouldn't, the place in which a team finishes isn't the best way to judge a manager
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He most definitely did word it badly although a quick look at his post history makes me wonder if he isnt a wum?

Managers will always be judged on results and on that front he has delivered so far.

That said, his time is up and roll on the summer.
 
blueinsa said:
He most definitely did word it badly although a quick look at his post history makes me wonder if he isnt a wum?

Managers will always be judged on results and on that front he has delivered so far.

That said, his time is up and roll on the summer.
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He hasn't but we will never agree on that, we are all getting to the same point with him, it's just the speed in which we have done it and his legacy that differs
 
hilts said:
He hasn't but we will never agree on that, we are all getting to the same point with him, it's just the speed in which we have done it and his legacy that differs
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The issue is mate and it reared its head again last night is those wanting him sacked right now, despite knowing full well the plan is he goes in the summer.

It would serve no purpose whatsoever to fire him now imo.

His time is up and the summer cant come quick enough but in the mean time, despite some turgid suff being played at times and some baffling decisions being made, by hook or by crook we are right in it and come the end of the season, if we win the league again i wont give a flying fuck about how we did it or how poor we might have been for spells.
 
blueinsa said:
The issue is mate and it reared its head again last night is those wanting him sacked right now, despite knowing full well the plan is he goes in the summer.

It would serve no purpose whatsoever to fire him now imo.

His time is up and the summer cant come quick enough but in the mean time, despite some turgid suff being played at times and some baffling decisions being made, by hook or by crook we are right in it and come the end of the season, if we win the league again i wont give a flying fuck about how we did it or how poor we might have been for spells.
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I agree Anyone wanting him sacked now is living in cloud cuckoo land, that time was in the summer, I would actually like to see us win a league in style, be dominant for a change, it serves several purposes - the team actually get some credit for once, it shows we are progressing towards our ultimate goals, it puts fear into the opposition, we don't continually have the feeling we could have done a whole lot better
 
hilts said:
I agree Anyone wanting him sacked now is living in cloud cuckoo land, that time was in the summer, I would actually like to see us win a league in style, be dominant for a change, it serves several purposes - the team actually get some credit for once, it shows we are progressing towards our ultimate goals, it puts fear into the opposition, we don't continually have the feeling we could have done a whole lot better
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In a perfect world mate you are of course spot on.

For a multitude of reasons affecting not just us right now, this season is anything but ordinary and routine and right now, i couldn't give a rats arse if we lose another 5 games as long as we manage to get it over the line.

Pep is the future and its coming soon ;-)
 
My feeling is he was their perfect appointment from a pr, media side of things, has diffused much of the drama and negative headlines that came out of mancini's reign and his personality that reflects what the club want to be seen as. However I don't think you can remove on pitch performances from a managers mandate, particularly with a club of our stature and there I think Pellegrini hasn't done what the club would have wanted, the team simply isn't as good as it should be with the resources he has. He hasn't left the defence in good shape for guardiola for example. 4 30 plus full backs, and 2 big money CB's giving shaky performances week in week out.
 
Judging by Khaldoon's reaction to last season's lack of achievement the club clearly wanted more than a calming influence and keeping the seat warm for Pep. If Pellers wins the title this season he has fullfilled his brief. If he doesn't then he hasn't.
 
Cheesy said:
If his brief was to take us steadily backwards on field then yes, it's job done.
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I dont think even the ardent pellegrini fan could argue against your post. Its a terrible return for three years if some decent silverware isnt won this season.
 
blueinsa said:
In a perfect world mate you are of course spot on.

For a multitude of reasons affecting not just us right now, this season is anything but ordinary and routine and right now, i couldn't give a rats arse if we lose another 5 games as long as we manage to get it over the line.

Pep is the future and its coming soon ;-)
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He better had the fallout otherwise wouldn't be pretty
 
I'm convinced we will win the league, get further than we ever have in the CL and possibly pick up one of the cups but at times I feel that is in spite of Pellers rather than because of him. I can think of several managers who would have had this league wrapped up by now. I just don't get the tactics in some games. Yesterday was a prime example, how can anybody think going into a game against 6th in the league away with Yaya and Delph in central midfield? This isn't an isolated incident, he has gone into certain games leaving us exposed. Our central defenders get a tanking week in, week out but none of them are bad players. Each are internationals and top class but even Bobby Moore, Wio, Baresi, Chellini, Stam, Adams and any other top quality centre half ever lived would look shite with the way we set up every week.
 
mcfc1996 said:
I'm convinced we will win the league, get further than we ever have in the CL and possibly pick up one of the cups but at times I feel that is in spite of Pellers rather than because of him. I can think of several managers who would have had this league wrapped up by now. I just don't get the tactics in some games. Yesterday was a prime example, how can anybody think going into a game against 6th in the league away with Yaya and Delph in central midfield? This isn't an isolated incident, he has gone into certain games leaving us exposed. Our central defenders get a tanking week in, week out but none of them are bad players. Each are internationals and top class but even Bobby Moore, Wio, Baresi, Chellini, Stam, Adams and any other top quality centre half ever lived would look shite with the way we set up every week.
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Agree about the centre backs

Part of a manager's job is surely to improve players. I can't think of one player he has improved. Our defenders can't defend, our midfielders look shite, the wingers don't run past people and our reserve striker(Bony) can't hit a barn door and niether could Dzecko last season

Now, we are either the unluckiest team in the world when it comes to buying players or the manager isn't doing his job properly. I'll go with the latter

So to answer the question. No, not 'job done'. Win the league this year would make it 'par' so to speak but I think most managers could achieve that
 
blueinsa said:
He most definitely did word it badly although a quick look at his post history makes me wonder if he isnt a wum?

Managers will always be judged on results and on that front he has delivered so far.

That said, his time is up and roll on the summer.
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Purely based on results, as of this moment I believe that Pellegrini has been average for us. Not bad but not good either.

The PL and Cup win in his first season obviously shows he can win trophies but last season was appalling bad. It's all well and good saying that we finished 2nd but that was solely due to the fact other sides like Arsenal and United underperformed. We didn't even muster a title challenge which sums up last season. In fact, we were even in danger of finishing 4th at one stage.

This season is a strange one. We are almost like United were in the latter stages of Ferguson's reign. I mean that in the sense in that we beat the 'lesser sides' but look distinctly average against the good sides. We are still in with a shout of winning the league but so far we should be doing better with the money spent and players at our disposal.

I think it would be fair to say that Pellegrini is not the person to take us to the next level. In fact, I think he is a tier below the top class managers.
 
His tactics, or lack of them were appalling last night. As soon as I saw Yaya and Delph together in midfield I was worried. Also I believe we should have started with Raheem, rather than KDB. At home against packed defences is when you play KDB. Away from home with teams attacking you, Sterling is your best choice as he can stretch the game. Also KDB is struggling for form away from home at the minute.

It didn't help David was off his game. However, the main reason why we didn't win was because of Pelle. He simply doesn't do enough work on the oppositions strengths and weaknesses.

Personally I would have gone with Fernando and Ferny.
 
Pellegrini won two trophies in his debut season. Thats a pretty good haul and already makes him one of City's most successful ever managers. That said I don't rate his defensive signings, and unless he can sort this...
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
Pellegrini won two trophies in his debut season. Thats a pretty good haul and already makes him one of City's most successful ever managers. That said I don't rate his defensive signings, and unless he can sort this...
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I would think any competent manager would have done the same. The players were up for it after the previous season's troubles with Mancini, and all he had to do was allow them to play in a positive way.
 
overall since we made the change from mancini we've been wank. zero progress, in fact we've gone backwards. we are no longer feared and we are incredably easy to beat. apart from that yeh "job done"
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The question should be read as: "Are we at least the sum of our individual parts?"

The answer to that is quite clearly no.
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Clearly we are well below the sum of our parts and yet we could still win the title without ever getting there. Not sure what that says about Pellers to be honest.
 
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