Pellegrini - Job done ?

Bill said:
overall since we made the change from mancini we've been wank. zero progress, in fact we've gone backwards. we are no longer feared and we are incredably easy to beat. apart from that yeh "job done"
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Dont bite folks, dont bite ;-)
 
BobKowalski said:
Clearly we are well below the sum of our parts and yet we could still win the title without ever getting there. Not sure what that says about Pellers to be honest.
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I've had this debate before with a few. Is it more important that we just get one point more than the team that come second, however badly we play, or is it more important that we play to our maximum potential. To me it's the latter as that means we shouldn't have to rely on 19 other teams being worse than us. I'd rather we were clearly better than those 19.

We could well win the title (and I still think we will) but there will be something gnawing at me about our general level of performances this season even if we do, unless we really buck up for the last 15 games. There will be a feeling that we just didn't play to our potential enough.
 
Great way to view things, whether people like Pellegrini or not there's no denying City has become a more attractive destination during his tenure, both for players and for managers. There's much less drama and much more professionalism, we've proven that winning the title wasn't just a blip and we've actually progressed in CL and are likely to progress even further this season, even if we've been dissapointing this season and the past one I feel we've been getting more and more settled as a top team every season. People would have questioned Pep if he took over from Mancini back then, nobody will question him when he takes the reigns this summer.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've had this debate before with a few. Is it more important that we just get one point more than the team that come second, however badly we play, or is it more important that we play to our maximum potential. To me it's the latter as that means we shouldn't have to rely on 19 other teams being worse than us. I'd rather we were clearly better than those 19.

We could well win the title (and I still think we will) but there will be something gnawing at me about our general level of performances this season even if we do, unless we really buck up for the last 15 games. There will be a feeling that we just didn't play to our potential enough.
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If we knew we would be kicking off next season with Pellegrini at the helm it would be an entirely fair opinion to hold mate but with the summer change, right now i dont give a fuck as long as we get it over the line.
 
BobKowalski said:
Clearly we are well below the sum of our parts and yet we could still win the title without ever getting there. Not sure what that says about Pellers to be honest.
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The obvious answer is that whatever we win his contribution to it cannot be understated enough
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've had this debate before with a few. Is it more important that we just get one point more than the team that come second, however badly we play, or is it more important that we play to our maximum potential. To me it's the latter as that means we shouldn't have to rely on 19 other teams being worse than us. I'd rather we were clearly better than those 19.

We could well win the title (and I still think we will) but there will be something gnawing at me about our general level of performances this season even if we do, unless we really buck up for the last 15 games. There will be a feeling that we just didn't play to our potential enough.
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Agree on both points.
 
George Hannah said:
Manuel is more than a stopgap - but not a lot more.
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A safe and willing stopgap, which makes him one of quite a small pool we could have picked after Mancini. If in the next few years Pep achieves what is expected of him the club and supporters will look back and say 3 years well spent especially if we end this season with a trophy or two. Of course if Guardiola didn't come or he isn't all that then it could be 3 wasted years, but I know where my money would be.
 
A couple of seasons of regression will be a lot more palatable if (when?) we know for sure that the first truly world class manager we have had since the takeover will be on his way.

In the meantime, performances way below our potential will continue to be the norm I suppose.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
So we were "wank" in 2013/14 when we won our first ever league & cup double? The trip to Villa on Saturday will be a lively one! ;-)
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we were lucky to win that title, liverpool caved in. the league cup was good to win but with this squad its hardly an achievement. if anone involved with the club think we are a better side now, more organised now, or indeed as tactically aware now they are seriously deluded. everyone on the way home yesterday said the same thing, pellers is a clown, i said i couldn't possibly comment.

i'll ring you mid week to arrange villa meet up Colin :)
 
His job is to win trophies. You can't win one every year - even the best managers have trophy less seasons. Let's judge him at the end of the season. It's relatively likely that we'll win a domestic double this year (despite our current form!). If we did you'd have to look back at 4 trophies in a 3 year spell as a very good return from a good manager. On the other hand, if we win nothing this year, 2 trophy less seasons in a row would be poor given our squad. Wait and see what he achives.
 
PrestwichPeteMcfc said:
His job is to win trophies. You can't win one every year - even the best managers have trophy less seasons. Let's judge him at the end of the season. It's relatively likely that we'll win a domestic double this year (despite our current form!). If we did you'd have to look back at 4 trophies in a 3 year spell as a very good return from a good manager. On the other hand, if we win nothing this year, 2 trophy less seasons in a row would be poor given our squad. Wait and see what he achives.
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Relatively likely? how do you get that with our form away and against top teams?
 
I can't help but think he's feeling the pressure from the press concerning PG. Our inconsistent form, esp. away, is frustrating.
 
The way he has conducted himself in front of the press is very professional and he got the players working together again. We have won trophies under his leadership too however I must say in terms of setting up his team he is pretty poor. I would go as far as saying he is one of the poorest tacticians in our league.
 
hilts said:
I think the owners wanted a manager that the players would respond to positively which would lead to a more consistent level of performance, I am not sure they would be happy with the team not reaching its potential over a 3 season period.

In sport you have to take your chances when they come, ambling along presuming a messiah will come in and everything will be fine is a strange strategy really.
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Spot on.

Why would we want to take a 3 year break from advancing ourselves as a club whilst we wait around for Pep?

Also Khaldoon looked like he wanted to murder someone during his end of season summary, perhaps he didn't get the memo telling us to coast along for 3 seasons until Pep was ready.

This isn't to say Pep wasn't a long term ambition, but 5 trophies expected during Manuel's term doesn't sound like us just wanting to wait around for Guardiola.
 
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