Pellegrini - The English Managers Syndrome

[schfc6]

And second is where we are likely to stay if performances don't improve sharpish

How are Arsenal getting on at home to 15th placed Chelsea?

I think a few fans need a slight reality check. We are above Arsenal, seen off Chelsea and Mourinho. Is Wenger a wank manager too? He's been in the league 20 years has a very good squad and has never finished above Pellegrini. I don't think he will do this year either.

I'm personally glad that our manager allows the players to express themselves. There's probably little doubt that Mourinho would get this squad to win the league, but it would be dull to watch and the likes of Silva, Ya Ya, De Bruyne and possibly even Aguero would be long gone.

Yes there's faults with Pellegrini, there is with all managers. I don't believe he should need to coach £30 million players how to defend a throw in or how to track a run.

Do people honestly think he stands at the CFA saying hey, Ota, make sure you're the wrong side of your man at throw ins. Or Hey, Ya Ya, don't let me catch you tracking your man.

The argument can be made for his team selections, but personally I said it at the start of the season, and the season before, I don't think our squad is as good as is made out. I also think it's pretty unbalanced.
He's also managing a side where what he says or does has zero consequences for him or the players.

 

[Blue Hefner]

How are Arsenal getting on at home to 15th placed Chelsea?

I think a few fans need a slight reality check. We are above Arsenal, seen off Chelsea and Mourinho. Is Wenger a wank manager too? He's been in the league 20 years has a very good squad and has never finished above Pellegrini. I don't think he will do this year either.

I'm personally glad that our manager allows the players to express themselves. There's probably little doubt that Mourinho would get this squad to win the league, but it would be dull to watch and the likes of Silva, Ya Ya, De Bruyne and possibly even Aguero would be long gone.

Yes there's faults with Pellegrini, there is with all managers. I don't believe he should need to coach £30 million players how to defend a throw in or how to track a run.

Do people honestly think he stands at the CFA saying hey, Ota, make sure you're the wrong side of your man at throw ins. Or Hey, Ya Ya, don't let me catch you tracking your man.

The argument can be made for his team selections, but personally I said it at the start of the season, and the season before, I don't think our squad is as good as is made out. I also think it's pretty unbalanced.
He's also managing a side where what he says or does has zero consequences for him or the players.

You're right to a degree when it comes to defending a throw for example - the defender should deal with it but we didn't because our players were clearly unaware that there number 30 could make a long throw. That's where the manage comes in. The lack of perpetration and attention to the opposition is the problem with this manager

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Nice to see we've moved up a place this weekend. Also, Arsenal's much vaunted home game advantage has been diminuted.

 

[Dax777]

Bayern plays with 2 wingers, Lewy and Müller. Müller is more a second striker than he is a midfielder. The difference might be not playing with 4 attackers but playing with 4 attackers that do their extra defensive shift - be it with pressing or tracking back.

Well this puts a strain in that silly argument :)

 

[adrianr]

I worry that we're on the cusp of chucking away 2 seasons under Pellegrini because the club has been in a holding pattern for Pep. It feels like this attitude has seeped into every corner, and we're playing as if to say "Don't worry, we'll really kick on when we get Pep in", when really we should be kicking on now, and last season, and every single season since Sheikh Mansour effectively removed the main barrier to becoming a global powerhouse.

 

[OB1]

Nice to see we've moved up a place this weekend. Also, Arsenal's much vaunted home game advantage has been diminuted.

So we end the weekend second in the league (by 3 points), second in the form table (by a point) to Spurs, and undefeated in six league games (equaled or bettered only by Chelsea on seven games). So, for all our complaints, things could be worse. We have to hope that some confidence starts to seep back into the team.

 

[schfc6]

You're right to a degree when it comes to defending a throw for example - the defender should deal with it but we didn't because our players were clearly unaware that there number 30 could make a long throw. That's where the manage comes in. The lack of perpetration and attention to the opposition is the problem with this manager

He'd already taken one in the first half, Otamendi cleared it at the front post. So if he didn't know before, he did at the time of the goal.

This is my point, everyone points blame at the manager, without any knowledge of what actually goes on in training. Both goals yesterday were embarrassing individual errors, one by a very expensive and experienced defender, one by arguably our most influential player of all time.

We have a very good offside trap, we are very effective in both boxes when it comes to set pieces, despite being quite a small team. Our shambolic defence that's missed its two best and most influential players has conceded just two more goals than 'solid' United, 1 more than Arsenal. So with the defensive liability that is Kolarov, no Kompany, no Zabaleta. A lazy Ya Ya and a tactically inept manager we still have the 4th best defence, whilst scoring the most. Despite playing behind our 'shambolic' defence, shielded by lazy Ya Ya orchestrated by a tactical Buffon Hart has managed to concede less than the doughnut thief and Cech.

When we put things in perspective we are actually pretty well placed.

Unless we think we're miles better than everyone else and should nob the league. I'm not a rag, so I don't personally think that way.

 

[Dax777]

I think its just the way our players play, they don't play quickly, so they aren't thinking quickly.

I don't think there is a fitness issue, we score so many late goals that it tells me that we're fit enough. We're still playing as though we have 75% possession every match, which doesn't need us to be charging around like athletes, you make the other team chase the ball. The trouble is our passing isn't working, and we rarely have possession like that any more, plus other teams are now playing in more direct ways against us. I think its a mental attitude problem more than a physical one.

To be fair to Fernando yesterday, Song was already running towards him, so he had to turn, and then compete with someone going at full pace, and Fernando isn't the quickest anyway.

I rolled my eyes when I saw that comment that made you have to make this obvious comment. It seems a good portion of our fan base either never played or are just being puposely dense just to satifyvsome prior agenda.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Pellegrini has more lives than a cat.
If he could actually be bothered thinking about taking the oppositions weapons away the league would already be as good as over.
Still that's not the City way is it.

 

[Dax777]

If we played how we know we can then we could have turned a lot of our draws into wins at least and be in a more comfortable position,mp and the team both carry the can for that
Chelsea do the arses and i will believe it is properly game on again

Game on then ? :)