Pep Guardiola - 2019/20 Performances

[Mr Blue Moon]

First Pep will need to curb the away leg experiments if we we're to stand a chance of winning the champions league.

You seem to be contradicting yourself.
I was replying to your quote where you were saying that Pep should experiment with youth for the rest of the season.

You then reply to my quote saying that Pep should curb his experimenting! Lol

 

[vincent]

The players and the manager are concentrated on the CL, Garcia and Foden won't play against Real. We need a settled team and we are preparing the team for Real.

yep and why have they hardly featured in the league thus far; because up until a few weeks ago we were concentrated on the league. As I said, they will always be an excuse and for that reason we should not be suprised if these youngsters star to press for moves away from City.

 

[alexmcity]

yep and why have they hardly featured in the league thus far; because up until a few weeks ago we were concentrated on the league. As I said, they will always be an excuse and for that reason we should not be suprised if these youngsters star to press for moves away from City.

Well, I've answered your worry twice, won't make it thrice. How many youngsters start games for Liverpool despite them being 20 pts clrear? Will their youngsters leave?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Well, I've answered your worry twice, won't make it thrice. How many youngsters start games for Liverpool despite them being 20 pts clrear? Will their youngsters leave?

They trusted their most talented teenager to be a first team regular and look at him now, he's the best right back in the league.

Maybe if we had the bollocks to trust our most talented academy product with regular minutes then he'd also make an impact.

It's not like we're asking Pep to start kids for the sake of it.

 

[alexmcity]

They trusted their most talented teenager to be a first team regular and look at him now, he's the best right back in the league.

Maybe if we had the bollocks to trust our most talented academy product with regular minutes then he'd also make an impact.

It's not like we're asking Pep to start kids for the sake of it.

It's not time for experiments though. Everything now is about the CL, we won't win it with Garcia at CB, he migh be ripped apart at Bernabeu. How many starts did TAA have when he was 18 y.o? Garcia and Foden had several, including league starts, before they turned 19.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

You seem to be contradicting yourself.
I was replying to your quote where you were saying that Pep should experiment with youth for the rest of the season.

You then reply to my quote saying that Pep should curb his experimenting! Lol

He's talking about playing youth in the league. Mou's developing Tanganga, Ole's working on Brandon Williams / Greenwood, Klopp did it with Arnold, Emery/Arteta are working on Saka / martinelli. Pep needs to trust the young ones, the league is already gone, now its time to decide who sticks and who goes in the summer and the integration of capable young players has to be part of that process .

 

[Mr Blue Moon]

He's talking about playing youth in the league. Mou's developing Tanganga, Ole's working on Brandon Williams / Greenwood, Klopp did it with Arnold, Emery/Arteta have martinelli. Pep needs to trust the young ones, the league is already gone, now its time to decide who sticks and who goes in the summer and the integration of capable young players has to be part of that process .

The point I’m trying to make is if we start playing one team for the league and another team for the cups then there is even less chance of ironing out the problems. There is still loads to play for with 3 trophies and we haven’t guaranteed champions league qualification

This is the time to try to get some momentum and regain a winning mentality Barring injuries/suspensions this is achieved by fielding the strongest team available

 

[Tugay One Cup]

It's not time for experiments though. Everything now is about the CL, we won't win it with Garcia at CB, he migh be ripped apart at Bernabeu. How many starts did TAA have when he was 18 y.o? Garcia and Foden had several, including league starts, before they turned 19.

I don't know and I can't be arsed to look it up but by Phil's age he'd figured in a similar amount of games with the main differences being that he was trusted to start league games, had played in a Champions League final and was well on his way to figuring in a second.

That's playing as a defender too which is a much, much bigger risk than someone in Phil's position. They trusted him because he showed the talent early on. Phil showed the talent and we just said "okay, cool, but there's an imaginary pecking order where you'll have to wait your turn regardless of whether or not the ones ahead of you stop performing".

Same goes for Garcia. Nobody can say with a completely straight face that Otamendi and Stones should be anywhere near the team on merit. They're total fuck ups and they have the knack for undoing everything the team has been holding onto by inexplicably fucking right up in moments where basic common sense should apply. Garcia came in, looked solid and composed and he just gets shunted to the back of the pack because he's younger than everyone else.

And that's not even to say he's been perfect because he did make a few mistakes but those were nothing more than wrinkles in need of ironing out. .

Now you're telling me that we don't have time to "experiment", by which you presumably mean to let both of them gain experience. Of course they don't! They've had months for that but the manager has denied then every reasonable opportunity to make the step up. It's entirely his fault that they aren't perceived to be ready for bigger games.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

The point I’m trying to make is if we start playing one team for the league and another team for the cups then there is even less chance of ironing out the problems. There is still loads to play for with 3 trophies and we haven’t guaranteed champions league qualification

This is the time to try to get some momentum and regain a winning mentality Barring injuries/suspensions this is achieved by fielding the strongest team available

Actually playing the young ones now is exactly what the team needs, it gives Pep a fresh perspective, eases up the pressure on him and would increase his hunger for a new project which would be finding the perfect balance between the old guards and the new young legs, right now Pep might feel like we are still fighting for a chance at the league but the reality is the league is long gone, only way to get the players refreshed is to bring in the younger players as this could have the Kun- Jesus effect back when Pep preferred Jesus over Kun, we all saw how hungry Kun was when he came back into the team.

A lot of these starters are still important to the team, its just the lack of enthusiasm that's there, they feel regardless of their performance they would always be in the first team, the introduction of young players would pass a message that these positions are not guaranteed. The young players would be willing to run through a wall for pep as they are fucking hungry and the older players would step up their performance.

The enthusiasm of young players should not be underestimated, I remember a couple seasons ago when Flanagan lunged in to hurt Raz, the klanfield fans were ALL excited and Flanagan was pleased because that was the EXACT reaction he wanted. I see it with Foden also, when he scores a goal, he's celebration is so enthusiastic and he is never one to back down from a challenge or confrontation.

 

[alexmcity]

I don't know and I can't be arsed to look it up but by Phil's age he'd figured in a similar amount of games with the main differences being that he was trusted to start league games, had played in a Champions League final and was well on his way to figuring in a second.

That's playing as a defender too which is a much, much bigger risk than someone in Phil's position. They trusted him because he showed the talent early on. Phil showed the talent and we just said "okay, cool, but there's an imaginary pecking order where you'll have to wait your turn regardless of whether or not the ones ahead of you stop performing".

Same goes for Garcia. Nobody can say with a completely straight face that Otamendi and Stones should be anywhere near the team on merit. They're total fuck ups and they have the knack for undoing everything the team has been holding onto by inexplicably fucking right up in moments where basic common sense should apply. Garcia came in, looked solid and composed and he just gets shunted to the back of the pack because he's younger than everyone else.

And that's not even to say he's been perfect because he did make a few mistakes but those were nothing more than wrinkles in need of ironing out. .

Now you're telling me that we don't have time to "experiment", by which you presumably mean to let both of them gain experience. Of course they don't! They've had months for that but the manager has denied then every reasonable opportunity to make the step up. It's entirely his fault that they aren't perceived to be ready for bigger games.

We and Liverpool are in totally different scenarios though. We've built a team that had huge success and wants the CL now. Liverpool, when they trusted TAA, were building a team and were winning fuck all when TAA was Garcia's age. Midfield is a zone where experience matters the most. When was the last time a teenager started a CL final in midfield?

We are not building for the future nowbut trying to squeeze as much from this team as possible. When Pep leaves, then we will have the freedom to experiment more. Even if Pep stays, Foden and Garcia are likely to play more next season if they show they deserve to play.