Pep Guardiola - 2024/25

[Bluewars II]

These are the kinda posts I’m gonna re-post in 12 months. :)

Exact same comments were said 19/20 seasons. It’s all low level reactionary BS.

You wont be reposting shit, we're not getting back to top level next season.

 

[Leroy Leroy Leroy]

This needs to be Pep this summer

 

[melrose40yarder]

You wont be reposting shit, we're not getting back to top level next season.

Unfortnately true massive turnround of players.
Going to be a few yrs before we challenge.
Be thankful for what we have seen.

 

[Blue2202]

this fucking word salad that Pep and players come out with that now we have 10 finals left. it means nothing if we play like this. we had 11 finals left before the Forest game. if we prepare tactically and mentally like this for a final there are big issues.

every other PL club has 10 finals left in PL. some bit more in EL and CL still there for them.

Pep has been talking about showing fight since the start of the dreadful run in October and we're showing even less now than we did before. We rolled over for Madrid, the dippers and arsenal and continue to look piss weak mentally by throwing games in the final minutes.

That mentality comes from the manager, but when he's sat in press conferences talking about giving us 1% chance in games what does it say to the players?

 

[Bluewars II]

Unfortnately true massive turnround of players.
Going to be a few yrs before we challenge.
Be thankful for what we have seen.

Exactly, what we've seen will never be done again, have to accept it. All those trophies and then a balon dor to top it off we were in Dreamland.

 

[Bluewonder]

Have we though? We’ve still been taken apart by Liverpool, Arsenal and Madrid. And we continue to throw games in the final minutes, How is that improvement?

Implying I’m dim is pot kettle black. Why don’t you wake up and refrain from your happy clapping agenda. We have been and continue to be dreadful. Not much has actually improved since Jan, the same issues are happening and pep has done nothing to alleviate it.

19 points from the last 10 games
8 points from the 10 before that.

That's a clear and significant improvement.

Dim.

 

[thegoatsthegoat]

19 points from the last 10 games
8 points from the 10 before that.

That's a clear and significant improvement.

Dim.

Improvement in terms of points maybe, performances? I am not sure, the result doesn't always reflect a performance. Look at us in about October, unbeaten and still top, whilst playing crap.

 

[Sir peace frog]

think we really need to go after a playmaker someone to thread the ball through haaland and marmoush make run after run but we never find them imagine david silver in this team i think all our troubles would be over sadly we cant get david silva but we really need the closest thing to him.

 

[DMA's]

It won’t happen but I honestly believe a mutual departing in the summer is best for both parties.

Pep looks worn out and has seemingly lost that fire, we are buying players that don’t fit his ethos (I.e highly technical) and instead signing loads of players who would thrive in transitions (haaland, doku, savinho, nunes, marmoush are all runners).

With viana now in place I really think we should just give him the keys. I can genuinely forsee a scenario where pep sticks with a lot of these same players for one more season before they all leave together. He is that loyal to these guys imo and that would be a disaster for us

 

[Bluewonder]

Improvement in terms of points maybe, performances? I am not sure, the result doesn't always reflect a performance. Look at us in about October, unbeaten and still top, whilst playing crap.

Over 1 or 2 games you can be lucky or unlucky, but over 10 games the results reflect the performances.

 

[Craig]

Improvement in terms of points maybe, performances? I am not sure, the result doesn't always reflect a performance. Look at us in about October, unbeaten and still top, whilst playing crap.

Yeah, can’t really dispute against the real top teams we’ve been well short. I still think we’ll be back challenging next season though. I don’t see any of our rivals improving much. Fair play to the scouse twats and if they keep this seasons form then they’ll be difficult to catch. Can’t see them improving either though as they’ve got 2 truly world class players who will be another year older and might not even stay.

Another good midfielder with Rodri back and a decent right back and i don’t think we’ll be far away. Although i am slightly banking on our 2 wingers kicking on by next season. If Foden suddenly starts being able to run again he could also be a huge bonus next season.

 

[Paul1970]

I remember his first season when he ‘didn’t have the answers’ either. There were a fair few on here wanted him gone.
The PL had found him out, tikka taka would never work, he’ll be gone in a year.

I’m far from a ‘happy clapper’ but, after the unprecedented run of success he’s given us, after me feeling things at a football match I never thought I’d feel, after taking that banner at old Trafford and shoving it up their collective arses, after 4 in a row and after 2 trebles, I’m more than happy for him to have an off season, and that would be true if he perhaps hadn’t stayed too loyal to a few players who might be passed it, hadn’t had a terrible injury crisis and hadn’t seen his marriage fall apart…..

I don’t remember know one wanting him gone infact everyone was excited to see the rebuild of a team that wasn’t his and his style coming in and working with his players . Now is totally different and he will be fine before he rebuilds this team as his contract is for 2 seasons .

 

[Paul1970]

If only we'd won something in those five years. Jesus Christ.

"Faster, younger and more direct. That's not going to change." It's already changed since 1 January.

You think we're going to sign geriatrics like KDB this summer?

Why don't you read your posts back to yourself

But are we gonna be moving these players on as atm it’s abit confusing . Gundo silva kdb kova grealish are all past it and that is only midfield and the problem is pep will still pick these players if they are with us which means another season of slow predictable football and yes we have smashed it for the last few years but as we where quick to tell our neighbours the past is the past and we are now in the present .

 

[thegoatsthegoat]

Over 1 or 2 games you can be lucky or unlucky, but over 10 games the results reflect the performances.

Incorrect, we was top in October I believe, that was after really poor performances against Brentford, Wolves, Southampton, Fulham etc. I said at the time our performances didn't reflect our league position and ultimately it more than levelled out.

 

[Bluewonder]

Incorrect, we was top in October I believe, that was after really poor performances against Brentford, Wolves, Southampton, Fulham etc. I said at the time our performances didn't reflect our league position and ultimately it more than levelled out.

We also dominated most of the game against Arsenal, had a good away draw at Newcastle, comfortably won away at Chelsea and West Ham in that period.

Anyway, if you don't think our performances have been better since new year despite us thumping 5th and 6th in the table, winning away at our bogey team and taking 11 points more than in the previous block of 10 games I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Paul1970]

So I watch other teams playing well to get ideas of what the football landscape is.

PSG and Barcelona are 2 examples.

They both tilt one of their fullbacks wide (Barca LB, PSG RB), then let the winger on that side roam inside (Barca Raphinha, PSG Kvara/Doue) to be the "free man" while everyone else is marked.

Then they usually build on that side, switch to the other side with isolated winger who excels at 1v1 (whose fullback now comes in to help like Kounde), and just make loads of chances.

And we did that with Gvardiol and Marmoush and won every game we did it.

Doku doesnt need to be a touchline winger, he can roam inside a bit as well to rotate with Marmoush.

Let Savinho play 1v1 RW, with Nunes offering support.

The way we currently play offers no overloads or cleverness.

We can play in a similar system like PSG and Barca, whom have modernized possession football (they are still possession based teams), and it suits our players!

agree . Funny thing is every time we flex our muscles and speed we smash teams but then pep brings us back in line again and it’s like jack grealish who has never really been given a chance to shine in the role that was the reason we paid 100 million for .if we go out and go direct we will put the fear of god up teams and it doesn’t matter if teans dig in as in the end the firepower will get through like it used to do . Pep just take the shackles off

 

[Blue2202]

19 points from the last 10 games
8 points from the 10 before that.

That's a clear and significant improvement.

Dim.

Use whatever stats you like pettle, I don't see many here backing up your little happy clapping brigade.

If we'd have drastically improved the chances of us finishing top 4 would be in our hands, instead that's still out of our hands.

You just carry on being content with watching us turn up to games to roll over and get beat whilst being 23 points off the top of the league - and let the realists talk about the facts of the situation we are in as a direct result of peps inability to find any solutions.

 

[Bluewonder]

Use whatever stats you like pettle, I don't see many here backing up your little happy clapping brigade.

If we'd have drastically improved the chances of us finishing top 4 would be in our hands, instead that's still out of our hands.

You just carry on being content with watching us turn up to games to roll over and get beat whilst being 23 points off the top of the league - and let the realists talk about the facts of the situation we are in as a direct result of peps inability to find any solutions.

Is 19 a bigger number than 8?

 

[Paul1970]

The point is that since we brought in some young blood in January we've been much better.
Surely even the dimmest of posters can understand that improving trend?

The Uzbek kid and Mamoush Do look really good and reiss will be aswell but pep is killing us with him picking his favourites ween in week out who are stinking the place out and unless they are gone next season he will still keep picking them and that is the big problem .

 

[decmancity]

Use whatever stats you like pettle, I don't see many here backing up your little happy clapping brigade.

If we'd have drastically improved the chances of us finishing top 4 would be in our hands, instead that's still out of our hands.

You just carry on being content with watching us turn up to games to roll over and get beat whilst being 23 points off the top of the league - and let the realists talk about the facts of the situation we are in as a direct result of peps inability to find any solutions.

How is finishing top 4 not in our hands, we win our games we finish top 4. What is there to not understand there?

As for being content, what choice do you have, are you going to get yourself on the touchline and put Pep on the bench so you can manage the games from now on?