Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

I'm guessing that you aren't one of those blues who forked out for visas flights and match tickets, only then to be banned from attending the game and offered no compensation either by UEFA or by CSKA - only to see plenty of CSKA fans admitted to the stadium in a game that was supposed to be being played behind closed doors. I didn't go either, but I suppose if you think it is melodramatic to sympathise and show solidarity with the blues who did, then that is up to you.

As to voicing my dissent by booing their anthem, again it is up to you whether you view that as naive, just as it is up to me whether I view it as apathetic or spineless to decline to do so.

As it happens I live in a constituency which is solidly Tory, and has been for ages. If I vote tory at the election, the majority will be 15,001. If I vote labour the majority will be 14,999. My vote therefore counts, in the grand scheme of things, for diddly squat. I still vote, because I wish to register my approval (or lack of it) of the government of the day. I will continue to boo the UEFA anthem for much the same reason. I have only one voice, but I intend to use it, whether or not vocalising my displeasure has any practical impact. Do you genuinely not understand this?

You may or may not be right that it won't have a significant effect, but you are wrong to say it will have no effect whatsoever - it already has. The official report to UEFA for a game last season included reference to the anthem being booed. Such a reference is usually the precursor to a disciplinary charge, and I personally incline to the Mark Halsey line in terms of whether authorities like UEFA or the FA sometimes seek to influence the content of the match report with a view to bringing a charge in relation to something they are not happy about. The resultant outcry against the possibility of the club being fined because we voiced our dissent appears to have made them back down. They wanted to stifle it, they quickly realised that to do so would be worse than to do nothing. It also worked against them in the sense that it is now more widely understood why we City fans feel that we, and our club, have been badly treated by UEFA.

These are small victories, but they are victories nonetheless. It will be a sad day if legitimate dissent is stifled because it is not likely to achieve anything.

But it was all conducted under the last UEFA regime. Now I'm not suggesting for a minute that they are totally reformed, but Platini who was at the head of it all is gone and a successor has just been announced. Is it not time to move on? If they slight us again, more of the same but it can't go on forever, it just doesn't make sense. It's like protesting against Labour now for things Tony Blair did...
 
pricing was great last night i agree. the problem i think is fans get used to not going and just because one games cheap, it doesnt mean they are going to start going again. apathy for games like that probably does exist. the biggest difference i noticed last night was that there were barely any tourists compared to previous champions league games. season ticket holders swell have gotten used to going to games a lot can't be bothered.

The Club should have let season card holders but four or six tickets from the start like try do with other low profile European games. I normally take four or five people from work to the CL games. The Club in trying to bend over backwards for Cityzens card holders missed a good sales opportunity.
 
But it was all conducted under the last UEFA regime. Now I'm not suggesting for a minute that they are totally reformed, but Platini who was at the head of it all is gone and a successor has just been announced. Is it not time to move on? If they slight us again, more of the same but it can't go on forever, it just doesn't make sense. It's like protesting against Labour now for things Tony Blair did...

Have they not just "altered" the way money will be distributed based on past achievements? Corrupt TO THE CORE.
 
The Club should have let season card holders but four or six tickets from the start like try do with other low profile European games. I normally take four or five people from work to the CL games. The Club in trying to bend over backwards for Cityzens card holders missed a good sales opportunity.

i dont think that would be a good idea, more than likely you would get fans flogging them off or have situation where people can't get tickets for more competitive ties. if season ticket holders can't be bothered then citizens should be the ones that benefit.
 
The match got called off and rescheduled. They offered refunds on tickets. There were empty seats in Madrid, Barcelona, Lyon, Brugge, Benfica, Porto.
However, I do think general fan apathy and behaviour needs sorting, as well as the club waking up to the fact that we can't all spend £40-£50 extra a week, every week on a Champions League, League Cup or FA Cup game on top of Season Tickets/Premier League.

We need to do a bit more, and the club and Pep should meet us halfway.
 
But it was all conducted under the last UEFA regime. Now I'm not suggesting for a minute that they are totally reformed, but Platini who was at the head of it all is gone and a successor has just been announced. Is it not time to move on? If they slight us again, more of the same but it can't go on forever, it just doesn't make sense. It's like protesting against Labour now for things Tony Blair did...

...and accusations against the new President have already started. A Norwegian newspaper has accused Sweden of voting for Ceferin in exchange for a Scandinavian Euros in 2024 or 2028.
UEFA needs to be disbanded completely and both UEFA and FIFA need to be moved out of the corrupt little shit hole that is Switzerland. UEFA needs to be based in the EU where the corrupt can be brought to trial, and FIFA based in the EU or the USA for the same reason. Nothing will change until then.
 

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