Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

pardoeofftomexico said:
I didn't say I was embarrased. I was saying that the club could be when entertaining UEFA officials. The club want to be in this place. Obviously a lot of fans are not that bothered.
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If someone at the club is embarrassed they need to man up too. Or maybe use it as an opportunity to tell those UEFA officials exactly why our supporters don't think too much of the job they're doing.
 
pardoeofftomexico said:
How do you know it is not an embarrasment. The club has UEFA officials as its guests and you can bet they are treating them very well. Anyway from where I sit the booing last night was nowhere near as pronounced as last year. Perhaps they turned the sound up on the anthem to help drown it out.
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So you're saying the booing is upsetting a few UEFA officials being wined and dined by the club?

Isn't that one of the things it's supposed to do?
 
Blue Mist said:
Dear Pep,
You were not around in the 60's and 70' but then the Football League had a rule. No live matches and the BBC could only show highlights of one main match and one other. The Football League reasoned that if you show too much football on television no one would turn up at the games. The Premier League came along and sold it's soul to $ky and guess what. Football clubs cannot take millions of pounds from TV companies and then moan when fans find it is easier and cheaper to watch a match live in the comfort of their own home. Plus they can see every magnificent goal and controversial decision five times without gettng wet/cold/tired. They can also turn over to Bake Off at half time.
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Jesus....this is getting ridiculous now.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I'd say that at least 80% of our match day crowd come from Greater Manchester or its immediate surrounds. Of the other 20% I'd say half are exiled from the area. My sister has a box at old Trafford and I occasionally attend and its immediately noticeable that there are miles fewer "locals". Theirs is more like 50% and from what she says, significantly less at away matches.
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i agree. i know its not the best thing to go off, but listen to the accents of our fans on youtube videos like bmrtv, lots more local accents. then watch united fans videos. even just walking round the ground and hearing manchester/ surrounding areas accent.
 
razman said:
Just got round to watching the full press conference.. Initially did think he is harsh on the fans... But you can't really disagree with what he has said

Also we haven't attracted new fans ( glory hunters if you will) as much as maybe the hierarchy may have wanted since the take over.. Fact is commercially / financially they do make a difference. But with pep and the style of football it will change


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It's not just the style of Premier League football that Pep has to understand, he's not surrounded by passionate Catalans or regimented Bundesliga fans. You're in England mate, we boo when we like.
 
BurnCK said:
Like I'm bored whole 'everyone is out to get us' mentality.
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This. Everyone is so paranoid and defensive. He wasn't having a dig at fans, it's an appeal to get behind the team for CL as much as we do for PL. Regardless people will just play the victim and be outraged about anything that isn't 100% positive.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Decided to give these comments a thread of its own because it's the first time during the recent successful period which I can remember our own manager asking for more from the fans.

He also made reference to us turning out for the PL but not the Champions league and needing us there.

Lastly mentioned he wants us to forget booing the CL anthem, let the past go and move on.

He really is involved in everything that happens at the club. Given the circumstances of how the game ended up being played tonight, I doubt it was tonight in particular he's referring to but more in the general sense.

What do we think?
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he's flogging a dead horse. our fans are fickle as fuck, and there is no chance i'll stop booing.
 
We have not grown our fan base since the takeover because of the media agenda.......some would say ;-)
 
Chris in London said:
I'm guessing that you aren't one of those blues who forked out for visas flights and match tickets, only then to be banned from attending the game and offered no compensation either by UEFA or by CSKA - only to see plenty of CSKA fans admitted to the stadium in a game that was supposed to be being played behind closed doors. I didn't go either, but I suppose if you think it is melodramatic to sympathise and show solidarity with the blues who did, then that is up to you.

As to voicing my dissent by booing their anthem, again it is up to you whether you view that as naive, just as it is up to me whether I view it as apathetic or spineless to decline to do so.

As it happens I live in a constituency which is solidly Tory, and has been for ages. If I vote tory at the election, the majority will be 15,001. If I vote labour the majority will be 14,999. My vote therefore counts, in the grand scheme of things, for diddly squat. I still vote, because I wish to register my approval (or lack of it) of the government of the day. I will continue to boo the UEFA anthem for much the same reason. I have only one voice, but I intend to use it, whether or not vocalising my displeasure has any practical impact. Do you genuinely not understand this?

You may or may not be right that it won't have a significant effect, but you are wrong to say it will have no effect whatsoever - it already has. The official report to UEFA for a game last season included reference to the anthem being booed. Such a reference is usually the precursor to a disciplinary charge, and I personally incline to the Mark Halsey line in terms of whether authorities like UEFA or the FA sometimes seek to influence the content of the match report with a view to bringing a charge in relation to something they are not happy about. The resultant outcry against the possibility of the club being fined because we voiced our dissent appears to have made them back down. They wanted to stifle it, they quickly realised that to do so would be worse than to do nothing. It also worked against them in the sense that it is now more widely understood why we City fans feel that we, and our club, have been badly treated by UEFA.

These are small victories, but they are victories nonetheless. It will be a sad day if legitimate dissent is stifled because it is not likely to achieve anything.
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But it was all conducted under the last UEFA regime. Now I'm not suggesting for a minute that they are totally reformed, but Platini who was at the head of it all is gone and a successor has just been announced. Is it not time to move on? If they slight us again, more of the same but it can't go on forever, it just doesn't make sense. It's like protesting against Labour now for things Tony Blair did...
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
pricing was great last night i agree. the problem i think is fans get used to not going and just because one games cheap, it doesnt mean they are going to start going again. apathy for games like that probably does exist. the biggest difference i noticed last night was that there were barely any tourists compared to previous champions league games. season ticket holders swell have gotten used to going to games a lot can't be bothered.
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The Club should have let season card holders but four or six tickets from the start like try do with other low profile European games. I normally take four or five people from work to the CL games. The Club in trying to bend over backwards for Cityzens card holders missed a good sales opportunity.
 
BurnCK said:
But it was all conducted under the last UEFA regime. Now I'm not suggesting for a minute that they are totally reformed, but Platini who was at the head of it all is gone and a successor has just been announced. Is it not time to move on? If they slight us again, more of the same but it can't go on forever, it just doesn't make sense. It's like protesting against Labour now for things Tony Blair did...
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Have they not just "altered" the way money will be distributed based on past achievements? Corrupt TO THE CORE.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
The Club should have let season card holders but four or six tickets from the start like try do with other low profile European games. I normally take four or five people from work to the CL games. The Club in trying to bend over backwards for Cityzens card holders missed a good sales opportunity.
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i dont think that would be a good idea, more than likely you would get fans flogging them off or have situation where people can't get tickets for more competitive ties. if season ticket holders can't be bothered then citizens should be the ones that benefit.
 
The match got called off and rescheduled. They offered refunds on tickets. There were empty seats in Madrid, Barcelona, Lyon, Brugge, Benfica, Porto.
However, I do think general fan apathy and behaviour needs sorting, as well as the club waking up to the fact that we can't all spend £40-£50 extra a week, every week on a Champions League, League Cup or FA Cup game on top of Season Tickets/Premier League.

We need to do a bit more, and the club and Pep should meet us halfway.
 
BurnCK said:
But it was all conducted under the last UEFA regime. Now I'm not suggesting for a minute that they are totally reformed, but Platini who was at the head of it all is gone and a successor has just been announced. Is it not time to move on? If they slight us again, more of the same but it can't go on forever, it just doesn't make sense. It's like protesting against Labour now for things Tony Blair did...
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...and accusations against the new President have already started. A Norwegian newspaper has accused Sweden of voting for Ceferin in exchange for a Scandinavian Euros in 2024 or 2028.
UEFA needs to be disbanded completely and both UEFA and FIFA need to be moved out of the corrupt little shit hole that is Switzerland. UEFA needs to be based in the EU where the corrupt can be brought to trial, and FIFA based in the EU or the USA for the same reason. Nothing will change until then.
 
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