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taleofbluehalves said:
Maybe our 4th best but hardly a stellar season. How did he compare to Gundogan and Pogba?
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Both are Statistically superior to Yaya. But that's neither her nor there.

Neither one of Pogba or Gundogan are hardworking tacklers. Granted, Pep tactics might help, but I thought that was the general complaint with Yaya and Silva. Great when we have it and soft when we don't. Both Gundogan and Pogba can be described as such.

I think both players are amazing, but does it strike anyone as weird that a team that show very little aggression defensively now wants to go out and get the 2 most talented players that show the least amount of aggression on their respective squads.

Pogba puts in the least effort at Juve, and is easily covered by a Tevez like tenacity of Morata, Suarez like pestering of Dybala and 3 other extremely hard working midd in Khadera, Machisio, and the Colombian. Something similar at Dortmund too. Now both maybe a lot better than Yaya or Silva defensively, but neither should be mistaken for a defensive stud.
 
Dax777 said:
Both are Statistically superior to Yaya. But that's neither her nor there.

Neither one of Pogba or Gundogan are hardworking tacklers. Granted, Pep tactics might help, but I thought that was the general complaint with Yaya and Silva. Great when we have it and soft when we don't. Both Gundogan and Pogba can be described as such.

I think both players are amazing, but does it strike anyone as weird that a team that show very little aggression defensively now wants to go out and get the 2 most talented players that show the least amount of aggression on their respective squads.

Pogba puts in the least effort at Juve, and is easily covered by a Tevez like tenacity of Morata, Suarez like pestering of Dybala and 3 other extremely hard working midd in Khadera, Machisio, and the Colombian. Something similar at Dortmund too. Now both maybe a lot better than Yaya or Silva defensively, but neither should be mistaken for a defensive stud.
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And that is we're Xhaka would come into play
 
Blue Expat said:
Yaya & Fernandinho are better than Pogba & Gundagan imo.

Fernandinho was the best player on the field when we played twice against Juventus.
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62 and 47. The combined ages. Fern isn't going anywhere anyway so I'm not exactly sure where you're going with this.

Not sure I'd agree with what you said about Fern v Juve. Pogba was pretty amazing.
 
Comparing players is of limited value. It's about who is the best fit. The first approach is Champ Manager. The latter is effective, real life management.
 
Dax777 said:
Both are Statistically superior to Yaya. But that's neither her nor there.

Neither one of Pogba or Gundogan are hardworking tacklers. Granted, Pep tactics might help, but I thought that was the general complaint with Yaya and Silva. Great when we have it and soft when we don't. Both Gundogan and Pogba can be described as such.

I think both players are amazing, but does it strike anyone as weird that a team that show very little aggression defensively now wants to go out and get the 2 most talented players that show the least amount of aggression on their respective squads.

Pogba puts in the least effort at Juve, and is easily covered by a Tevez like tenacity of Morata, Suarez like pestering of Dybala and 3 other extremely hard working midd in Khadera, Machisio, and the Colombian. Something similar at Dortmund too. Now both maybe a lot better than Yaya or Silva defensively, but neither should be mistaken for a defensive stud.
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I think there's been less control of midfield from them. My point was to the poster who suggested we stick with the players we had. I still think we need a genuine destroyer or defensive minded player behind them but who is technically better than Fernando and Delph.
 
Let's face it we have a great but ageing midfield that on occasions this season have been swept away by aggressive, fast and well disciplined opposition. Pep will change all that with his brand of football and whilst retaining the services of some senior players will bring in at least two established young guns such as Pogba, Gundogan, Granit Xhaka, etc. On top of this he will bring through Academy players and / or the likes of Sane.
 
How much are some of the younger or less famous / glamours players going to costs that we have been linked with since the Pep announcement Pep and the board are surely going to be very interested in them but there do not seem to be any cheap players out there and we will also want some stars and these stars cost a fortune these days granted we profitable and have massive revenue now but the number of players we can by is surely limited the silly prices right now. I am specifically thinking of the following players

Dembele

The other Dembele

Musonda

Weigl

Xhaka

Dahoud

Sane
 
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