PGMOL Apologise to Everton. It WAS a Penalty!

Is it just hearsay or has it been documented? If hearsay, just more shit from the msm, if it's documented, further proof of complicity to the hateful8 cause by pigmol. It's not the first time (by any measure) that the depth of "outside influence" is laid bare (and ignored by the media). The FA has a well-deserved reputation as a "club for the clueless", the prem is a different level of criminal organisation, the lust for even greater wealth is a powerful driver.
Outside of the prem, gate receipts are the oxygen of clubs, within,, not so much. A global tv audience of millions is the holy grail of the billionaire cartel at the helm of the "old guard", the ad. revenues from one game can surpass the season's takings. The influence over govts by these people cannot be over-estimated. Taken years for the Scottish FA to get over the assassination of BskyB by murdoch. Berlusconi should be locked up by any metric, but his "influence" made sure that never happened, match-fixing not a "real" crime (white-collar?). Arriva derci integrity.
 
jrb said:
Another ex-Scouse player turned pundit and bullshitter stealing a living via our licence fee money working for the BBC.

Lawrenson was reviewing Everton vs Man City.

“Obviously at the weekend against Everton they got away with one. That handball decision was just staggering, when you consider that someone is watching all of the angles of the picture of the handball and decided that there’s nothing wrong with it, and that’s probably the worst ever decision VAR has ever made, I can’t think of a worse one,” Lawrenson said.

I can you Scouse c*nt!

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One, there were two in that game alone plus a shove in the back in the box on a City player, also " missed".
 
premierkissov said:
Dermot Gallagher is spouting bollocks in that Sky video. He talks about there being "no element of doubt" in the second still, which is cobblers because the second still is taken from behind so you can't even know for sure the ball was in contact with Rodri at that point. Moreover he claims that this is an angle VAR looked at, but when you look at the VAR replays (as shown in the video at 23 secs) you can see that the rear view VAR looked at was NOT the same one Gallagher claims they were looking at. You get a clear view of the white lines on the pitch in one but not in the other.

This is just really basic stuff. You cannot say that any still, especially one taken from behind, is definitive proof of anything, but that's what Sky are doing here.

When you watch the actual replays that VAR was looking at, whatever angle you choose the ball seems to bounce off Rodri at the end of his sleeve - so it's understandable that VAR could not see clear evidence of it being handball.
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VAR looks at up to 4 stills. In this case there were just 3 and SKy showing 2 on your link (but can't play video). The cameras are all in sync so can show from behind or a different angle because it is all at point of contact.

They use the badge on the sleeve as a guide point for the sleeve line. Yes, that sounds bollocks but that's what they are working towards... If it hits it square on it's not a penalty. In this case the majority of the ball is well beyond the badge/sleeve line and it is 100% a penalty. 2 of the 3 stills prove this.

Apparently, the 1 still where there is a question of doubt can be dismissed because the perspective is wrong.

As always the guidelines are wishy washy.

All this is from Dale JohnsonESPN on twitter. He does the best analysis of VAR out there that I can see.
He explains the rules, explains why a ref might have made the decision he did and comments when blatantly wrong. This was one of them. His approach is genuinely objective without bias that I can see after following him for ages.
 
Keeper! said:
It was a clear handball and anyone trying to defend that is foolish but why the FA has apologized is utterly bizarre and sets a dangerous president.

It was a huge cluster F**k of a decision but that's sport, mistakes happen. Rules are not black and white, clearly the case with the decision on Saturday, sometimes common sense has to transpire, sadly the PL Referees and the VAR officials are simply incompetent and incapable of making simple decisions.
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How many goals has been disallowed coz of offside during build up ?
 
I remember Kavanagh sending Carlos off at full time for fuck all as I recall when EFC got a goal right at the end of a game v TheRags, IIRC. Perhaps he got a cart load of grief from Toffees in the subsequent weeks and has waited for this opportunity to screw 'em!
 
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