PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[KS55]

They used someone's log in details that they'd retained from their time there, that is not a 'hack' and I couldn't give a rats arse what any 'definition' you intend to bring up says.

Ok ok keep your hair on. It was just a question.

 

[Centurions]

Fraud is a slip of the tongue perhaps on my side - if it’s a true scenario where we didn’t report a £750k ‘second salary’ for Mancini to BDO, then 100% if asked BDO would fall back upon the requirement for the club to provide input on known material (by audit threshold) items…

And honestly, as the amount is so completely inconsequential, IF - and we don’t actually know it was ‘hidden’ in City’s statutory accounts numbers - it would be so phenomenally dumb from City’s executives that they would deserve a public GoT style flogging.

And I don’t believe the executive team are that dumb.

*edit* I am only discussing a scenario whereby Mancini had a contract with a City UK entity, paid via Al-Jazeera.

If he had a contract direct with Al-Jazeera, paid by them in full then at worst case it’s a minor item not included in an FFP submission.

Was Mancini not prior to FFP? TBH the timelines are giving me a headache.

 

[East Level 2]

10pt deduction - rule 76.3(b), going out for something to eat on a Thursday.

A team going out for something to eat on a Thursday is only an offence as Rag and arsenal players are often busy on a Thursday night.

 

[waspish]

He’s a tit that Robbie. Got himself a you tube channel and now he’s a holy voice on football goings on? Dick head. Don’t know how two sips kept his shit together cause I’ve told him to go back crying on you tube. Tit.

He is usually sensible but having a good team now top the league he is getting carried away and probably starting to go down the root of being arrogant thinking his team is truly back! You see with the rags they are nowhere to be seen when they are losing not competing now they have top manager and look like they’ve turned a corner they become insufferable arrogant again…

 

[SouthStandStander]

1 hr till the Pep press conference!!

 

[halfcenturyup]

Was Mancini not prior to FFP? TBH the timelines are giving me a headache.

I don't have the strength to wade through all the PL rules for each year, but I am sure @Prestwich_Blue does. :)

 

[KS55]

Sadly I agree with you. If you're a top player will you seriously want to come to us ? It's like we will now be known forever as the cheats. We are tarnished.

If we win this case I sincerely hope City sue the PL big time over our reputation being badly tarnished, so badly leading to all sorts of problems in the future.

I’m hoping that players take no notice of all this. It might make us more attractive to agents who think there might be a bit of corruption in it for them. Maybe.

 

[Coatigan]

I agree. Why would the lawyers (and Barristers) working for the PL support 115 charges if they thought they couldn't win? Their reputation will be trashed if we lose. If the PL have only got the same quality of evidence as UEFA did then they will be totally humiliated. Very well-paid lawyers are usually very cautious when it comes to their own reputations. I think the situation is a lot more complex than we realise.

I am not being defeatist btw, for clarity. The club sound confident, as they did the last time, and that is enough. I am just not dismissing the PL's position lightly either, not as some desperate hail mary, or a charade for show, or an elaborate Clarkie. They will be equally confident in their position. Only one can come out on top.

 

[Iassel]

Been thinking about the likely outcome and my prediction is we will be found guilty of non cooperation - fine of about £10m. Then all the financial ones we will be found not guilty but they will word it in a way that allows the press and other fans to continue to presume we were actually guilty. Something like not quite enough evidence or didn't meet a threshold.

There is no chance in my opinion of an ‘off-ramp’ of a fine.

I’m 100% confident that for all of Khaldoon’s bravado publicly, in private if the Pl had offered a big fine in return for a final closure of the period to-date, City would’ve snapped their arm off for it.

Equally, the PL really don’t want to be in a position of going publicly for one of their members. It’s horrific PR for an organisation that only cares about its PR and profit maximisation.

The fact that they’ve pursued the strongest charges makes clear they believe they have a very strong hand. Equally I’ve no doubt City also believe they have a rock solid position, and now we have to wait the several years for this to take its course.

A defeat on the main charges fundamentally flaws the ‘loser’ below the water line. If the Pl lose, they’ve brought immeasurable damage to the league from a Pr perspective, and will have no chance to fight off independent regulation. If City lose, they’ll be deemed to have filed incorrect statements for a decade in the PL, and by default UEFA and the punishments won’t be a £1m fine and forced to play Scott Carson for a year.

As said previously, perhaps the likeliest scenario is that the Middle Eastern takeovers of United and Liverpool, which will inevitably lead to pathetically hypocritically opinion changes in their fans to ‘owner investment’ materially changes the landscape and sees the case quietly shelved when United fans and new owners realise they can’t sell Old Trafford naming rights to Qatar for £2bn and spend it all on Mbappe.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Does it mean we are now Double Centurions with all this shit?

100 pts in the league and 115 charges.

Double Centurions, you'll never sing that!