PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[MillionMilesAway]

No they weren't, they were all applauding the decsion and saying how clever St Marcus was. It was only a few days later people realised what a shocking decision it was.

I don't recall who was on Sky, and whether I watched their rubbish
MOTD and MOTD2 were unanimous that it should have been disallowed.

 

[cheekybids]

Anyone seen the article in the mail by that absolute **** Jordon.

I’ll pass….

 

[BufordUSABlue]

Top secret it seems. I too would like to know, I'd like a breakdown of how their product sells around the globe and which countries buy it but there doesnt seem to any information about that anywhere. Very secretive organisation it seems.

Most 'Cartels' are that !!

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Conspiracy theory here - perhaps these dodgy decisions of late are deliberate, so as to create a smokescreen. They can then say, look it`s not just City that are the victim of poor refereeing/VAR decisions.

Have to say, the same thing crossed my mind at the weekend.

I found myself wondering if they were all in squeaky bum territory. The PL PGMOL et al.

And this was before any dodgey info being thrown our way.

 

[Shads]

The emails are not evidence of wrong doing. They are evidence of a conversation. They may ’point to’ wrong doing but the PL has to prove wrong doing not stupid gossip.
PS I posted this a million times on the CAS case and CAS agreed, counting the emails as

I’m surprised you’re being questioned in this manner as it seems clear as day you have decent experience in this arena & really do know your stuff far more than the huge majority on here

Thanks for all your input

People always question. It’s natural curiosity and not offensive at all.

 

[Maldeika]

You say difference as if there is more of a connection between for example City and Etihad than for example Bayern and Audi. This actually proves my point is that City are owned by the sheik in a private capacity and others through CFG. City are sponsored by several Abu Dhabi state owned companies. Etihad, Etisalet, etc and companies in Abu Dhabi owned by private individuals. There is not even a single share owned by any city individuals and a sponsor. Yet for the media and rival fans and I believe UEFA for two of the companies (City wanted to fight but chose not to ) City are in some way heavily connected to these companies and they are over paying these companies are apparently effectively related part not sure people actually use those terms it’s a bit to technical for joe public.

Where as Bayern are beyond reproach despite common ownership and abnormally high commercial income and a very insular league and these companies not really needing the sponsorship. O and not to mention your history of dodgy ness with Rumminager.

We are looked into and looked into again and again and again and when nothing is wrong we are still assumed guilty if not by the bodies that matter at least rival fans and the media

I would add that none of the companies / sponsors are related parties in the accounts

I do not have much knowledge of City and the sheikh. And I try not to judge.

But - when I look at Wikipedia - City is 100% owned by the city football group limited that is owned by 81% from Newton Investment and Development LLC that is 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour.
To get that easier - City is owned by atleast 81% by the Sheikh. We talk about a majority ownership from the Sheikh.

And at Bayern we talk about 7% that Audi has from FC Bayern - 93% are owned by others. A minority share without any real legal influence in what the club does apart from a seat in the supervisory board.

You see the difference? Else any discussion doesn't make any sense!

I think it is selfexplainable why clubs like City, Rasenball, Wolfsburg etc. are looked into as you have related parties - parties that are not independent from each other that own a majority share of the club and possible sponsorships.

If City is clean is not my thing to answer or judge! Or to proof the opposite. I guess even as a fan you cannot and have to believe what they tell you!

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[A57 the snake]

I do not have much knowledge of City and the sheikh. And I try not to judge.

But - when I look at Wikipedia - City is 100% owned by the city football group limited that is owned by 81% from Newton Investment and Development LLC that is 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour.
To get that easier - City is owned by atleast 81% by the Sheikh. We talk about a majority ownership from the Sheikh.

And at Bayern we talk about 7% that Audi has from FC Bayern - 93% are owned by others. A minority share without any real legal influence in what the club does apart from a seat in the supervisory board.

You see the difference? Else any discussion doesn't make any sense!

I think it is selfexplainable why clubs like City, Rasenball, Wolfsburg etc. are looked into as you have related parties - parties that are not independent from each other that own a majority share of the club and possible sponsorships.

If City is clean is not my thing to answer or judge! Or to proof the opposite. I guess even as a fan you cannot and have to believe what they tell you!

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You’ve been on here 12 years … you have claimed not to have much knowledge on city after nearly three thousand posts.
but this but that … it’s effing boring mate .
You might be genuine . But..,

 

[Gordyola]

I’m sure if someone had that sort of info it would have been sold to the press not given to city

Maybe they have it but haven’t got enough validation for it

 

[Blue.Roys.Son]

I do not have much knowledge of City and the sheikh. And I try not to judge.

But - when I look at Wikipedia - City is 100% owned by the city football group limited that is owned by 81% from Newton Investment and Development LLC that is 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour.
To get that easier - City is owned by atleast 81% by the Sheikh. We talk about a majority ownership from the Sheikh.

And at Bayern we talk about 7% that Audi has from FC Bayern - 93% are owned by others. A minority share without any real legal influence in what the club does apart from a seat in the supervisory board.

You see the difference? Else any discussion doesn't make any sense!

I think it is selfexplainable why clubs like City, Rasenball, Wolfsburg etc. are looked into as you have related parties - parties that are not independent from each other that own a majority share of the club and possible sponsorships.

If City is clean is not my thing to answer or judge! Or to proof the opposite. I guess even as a fan you cannot and have to believe what they tell you!

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Your completely missing the point.

Forget how the ownership is set up, if these large Bavarian companies want your beloved German Rags to win the league every year then maybe just maybe they are plowing more money into Bayern than they need to!

 

[WRicko]

I do not have much knowledge of City and the sheikh. And I try not to judge.

But - when I look at Wikipedia - City is 100% owned by the city football group limited that is owned by 81% from Newton Investment and Development LLC that is 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour.
To get that easier - City is owned by atleast 81% by the Sheikh. We talk about a majority ownership from the Sheikh.

And at Bayern we talk about 7% that Audi has from FC Bayern - 93% are owned by others. A minority share without any real legal influence in what the club does apart from a seat in the supervisory board.

You see the difference? Else any discussion doesn't make any sense!

I think it is selfexplainable why clubs like City, Rasenball, Wolfsburg etc. are looked into as you have related parties - parties that are not independent from each other that own a majority share of the club and possible sponsorships.

If City is clean is not my thing to answer or judge! Or to proof the opposite. I guess even as a fan you cannot and have to believe what they tell you!

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I want to let you off because my understanding is that English is your second language and your English in written form might be better than mine and it’s certainly better than my German.

However when you do so well in explaining yourself and your posts perhaps unintentionally support my own view yet you insists my club should somehow be treated unfairly and might have done something wrong then I get a little annoyed. I want to respond to your posts but I don’t want to keep going over old ground.

So I will say it one more time

There is no common ownership between city owners sheik or others and any sponsors Etihad etc etc

Yet I believe two companies are treated as related party by EUFA they had their value capped. Not related party in the accounts or according to international standards. The standards which the rules set out by UEFA are based on.

Other sponsors are in affect treated as related party either through claims they over pay or claims they are related party / connected to the owner sometimes just by the fact they come from the same country.

On the other hand Bayerns sponsor are not checked. Let alone having the club and sponsors accused when they have common ownership all be it small shareholding.

Thanks for your response and thanks for making my point for me.