And staying in your stray-off, I REALLY hope that we don't join in the "You'll never sing that" nonsense that was thrown at us repeatedly. We should be much better than that!
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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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Can we make Arsenal the exception?And staying in your stray-off, I REALLY hope that we don't join in the "You'll never sing that" nonsense that was thrown at us repeatedly. We should be much better than that!
Interesting thoughtSorry for straying off-topic, but it’s a bit quiet on this one….
It’s a tempting thought to have a reset of football “trophies won” data and records. A bit like where we have History and PreHistory. The game today is nothing like it was 50 years ago muddy pitches, heavy ball etc. When Haaland was breaking records, no way would he catch Dixie Dean when he’s being subbed after 60 minutes. Completely different game now.
“Post-War” maybe. Or dare I say Premier League or even 21st Century.
When you look at all those FA Cups won by The Wanderers or Old Etonians, even Royal Engineers I mean wtf !
How would you split the English game into periods? Would it be major changes to either governance or laws of the game?
There’s lots to choose from post WW2, my football knowledge prior to that is sketchy to say the least
Pre WW1
Post WW1 - WW2
Post WW2 - 1961 (salary cap abolished in 61)
1961-65 (substitutes allowed from 65 onwards)
1965-81 (3pts for win introduction in 81)
1981-83 (Clubs kept home gate receipts from 83)
1983-92 (Inception of the pass back rule & inception of Premier League)
1992-95 (Bosman ruling was 95)
1995-97 (Abolishment of 3 foreigner rule in 97)
1995-2011 (FFP introduced when we’re loaded in 2011, can’t think why)
2011-2019 (VAR introduced to the detriment of the game in 2019)
2019-…… The City Years :)
Seems like the amount of changes to our game have increased rapidly in more recent times
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Yep wealth and power. This is what our owner is up to today…
I'm a self confessed Grecophile, so this disappoints me, but the UAE have become quite the power broker in the med and further afield. There are agreements for various things with Israel, Saudi, Greece, Egypt, Libya, Cyprus.
Obviously we've seen visits to the UK and US, too. Business is business and energy and weapons trump shitty little corrupt sporting organisations.
But they wouldn’t have even met any of these foreign ministers, let alone have any agreements in place if they’d not bought the soul of MCFC & then sportswashed it to gain soft powerI'm a self confessed Grecophile, so this disappoints me, but the UAE have become quite the power broker in the med and further afield. There are agreements for various things with Israel, Saudi, Greece, Egypt, Libya, Cyprus.
Obviously we've seen visits to the UK and US, too. Business is business and energy and weapons trump shitty little corrupt sporting organisations.
At least that seems to be what’s peddled by our friends in the WhatsApp group. They either lack critical thinking or are being disingenuous, or most probably both
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You are probably right but I would throw in ignorance and stupidity, also.But they wouldn’t have even met any of these foreign ministers, let alone have any agreements in place if they’d not bought the soul of MCFC & then sportswashed it to gain soft power
At least that seems to be what’s peddled by our friends in the WhatsApp group. They either lack critical thinking or are being disingenuous, or most probably both
I just felt the need to update this - ‘they can no longer laud the treble over us’ ;)I’m not one to usually post on forums, in fact this is actually the first time, but with everything that has transpired over the past few days coupled with the flagrant arrogance of football ‘fans’ i’ve felt compelled to respond.
I won’t go down the road of emphasising the misery it brought me at school, although relevant it’s hardly exclusive, but what I will focus on are the sheer levels of hypocrisy that are emerging, hypocrisy that we all knew existed but couldn’t truly demonstrate because one club was state owned (originally) and another was bankrolled by a horrendous group of incestuous yank capitalists.
During the past decade Manchester City have produced the best football ever witnessed, scored the most goals and essentially made a mockery of an English pyramid headed by two teams in Red, both dominant in respective decades due to the majority of investment and all the perks that it brings - better players, trophies, more fans - similar to ourselves although we still can’t sell out our stadium allegedly (heard some ball bag on the radio the other night claim we only get 30,000) but we’ve never been truly allowed to appreciate it.
Certainly amongst ourselves we have rejoiced: QPR, Villa, Leicester, Liverpool, United etc but there’s never been a moment where we’ve not had to suffer the ignominy of a loutish fat tosser down the boozer who so flippantly decries our achievements as being tinged with falsities, arab money, financial tampering, inflated sponsors (words he can’t even spell let alone understand) or; when faced with some facts that he struggles to dispute, barks treble or twenty times in our face like a petulant child, remnants of last night’s dinner still smeared around their mouth, before slinking off with their fellow minions, fortified by the fact that we’re yet to win the champions league.
Dealing with people like this is allegedly part and parcel of the sport, working class ribbing and ‘friendly banter’ to be expected amongst rival fans… except that it’s not, it’s tiresome, absorbing and ultimately annoying to the extent that it has literally sucks the fun out of it all, a bitterness echoing loudly in the streets, on social media, on whatsapp, in the boozers and at work, fully grown men and women focusing their jealously through petty barbs, goading people into responding to try and deflect their own pettiness and insecurities.
I’ve maintained for a long time that there are no truly decent rags and I’d like to think that over the past few days that any lingering doubts people have had to the contrary have been extinguished. Having to listen to people try to explain something to me that they know even less about than I do is tiring enough but when you’re also faced with a bombardment of populist media shills and ex-players, let alone the very organisation that your football has done so much enhance the brand of, then I could be forgiven for giving up and just accepting the inevitable.
But then the final piece of the jigsaw fell into place and all the ‘coincidences’, the collusion and corruption finally jumped right out and smacked me in the face… Qatari investment. All the false sentiments and morality, the things we’d known for so long that were simple mechanisms to try to mask their spite finally shone through. I mean, we should have known it was coming when the media tried to condition the public into believing that it was because of City and Newcastle that clubs like Liverpool and United had no choice but to seek state investment, as though they were forced into it.
Make no mistake the timing of Monday’s announcement, the delay to the Independent Regulator, the two week window it potentially gives the Qatari’s to meet the Glazer’s deadline, displace the Governments dependence on one State’s finances by shifting it another - may sound a tad too conspiratorial but can anyone truly pretend they don’t agree?
If the above goes through, which it most probably will, all the murmurs of human rights violations will disappear, vanish as though they never existed and the truth will present itself because all this has ever been about is no longer being the best… like the most popular child at school suddenly losing his grip on his peers, the only way to try to regain that is through manipulation and lies.
Personally I believe we’ll prove our innocence but on the back of this it’ll instil a whole new level of tribalism and toxicity and so we must never forget the way we’ve been treated. Never pretend that this was okay and never lose sight of the fact that we were there when we were shit! MCFC. x
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But they wouldn’t have even met any of these foreign ministers, let alone have any agreements in place if they’d not bought the soul of MCFC & then sportswashed it to gain soft power
At least that seems to be what’s peddled by our friends in the WhatsApp group. They either lack critical thinking or are being disingenuous, or most probably both
“It’s Abu Dhabi on the phone”
“who?”
“The blokes from Manchester City”
“Oh right, put them through”
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In future whe we play the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Forest & Villa we can sing "Winners of the treble, you'll never sing that".When fans of certain clubs bang on about history, their definition of history is trophies won.
Based on this definition, most of Villa's history pre dates World War One.
Prefer our Jack’s versionIn future whe we play the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Forest & Villa we can sing "Winners of the treble, you'll never sing that".