PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Paladin]

If united failed ffp under eufa rules and were fined, why aren't the PL looking at that as well? Not in a sarcastic way, but genuinely why aren't they? Were their losses not enough to fail PL ffp?

Nobody knows, because it was a minor breach.

 

[KS55]

Once City have been proved innocent can City demand that the pl look into other clubs accounts like in the Carmen Islands ?

Side issue: I would expect the independent regulator to ban clubs from registering offshore. Note both City and CFG are British registered companies.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

I know a number of Everton. The club are a complete shambles and rotten to the core. The points deduction hasn’t surprised them.

 

[KS55]

The media seems to be on full on rage porn for what the sanctions should be in relegation and titles stripped etc. They don’t seem to informing the great unwashed who read their articles that the Premier League have got a huge task to actually land the allegations against City. The time scales of nearly a decade of charges against us then the allegation that our owners, directors, management conspired with the likes of Etihad, Etisalat, Nike, Nexen Tire, Nissan, Silverlake, The Chinese Government, Delloite, Micheal Page Recruitment, Jaguar, Wix and whoever else were stake holders, sponsors or auditors during the time were all in on it and conspiring to cook the books. If they land it will be the biggest scandle in British Company in history it’s a big stretch to get there though.

You forget our owners are Arabs who, as everyone knows, are born cheats. See the Connman.

 

[bluemonkey71]

Harris’s Twitter goons are now trying to doxx people I see. Lovely.

Yes he's now screen grabbing posts and putting them on twitter and then playing the victim card.
Thankfully there are proper financial experts who we listen to rather than journalists with an agenda.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

The point about coercion is key here. It was clear from the UEFA charges that certain clubs were stirring the pot. You could see the relationships at work in how leaks were disseminated to favoured journalists and how the mainstream media was used. Pep’s comments about Levy and others at his Presser and Khaldoon’s earlier comments make it clear we know there has been “interference”.
When these shady, secretive, “off the record” discussions take place, the usual safeguards of process and advisory checks are often by-passed. “Principals” agree a course of action between them without appreciating the full breadth of consequences that may follow. You can imagine Masters being persuaded to run with the charges on the basis that it’s then passed over to the panel who will then have to sort it out. Job done - because in the meantime City’s reputation can be trashed and the PL is shown to be policing the game. I suspect they’d not fully appreciated the magnitude of the charges and have made a really big mistake. Time will tell but I think nothing will be the same again. All conjecture of course but hard to think of another explanation.

You get the feeling that some of them are still stuck on ‘the sheik will get bored and walk away’ idea, and if they accuse him and his club of all sorts of dodgy things (well, you know what these foreign types are like)then that will speed his departure and all their problems will simply go away with him.
A massive misjudgement and miscalculation which they have landed themselves with due to their total failure to understand how men like SM and Khaldoon operate.
Its not the first time fear and loathing has led to irrational decisions being made.

 

[route46]

Seriously if it did come to stripping titles what could they take?

Premier league FFP started from the 2013-14 season, with a 3 year monitoring period

First point any club could fail would be the 2016-17 season (we won nothing)
2017-18 Centurion season with a 10 point deduction with still win the league, hell make it 19 pt deduction we still win the league.

we have no charges after 2018

So what they stripping the 2018 Carabao cup?

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Watching that YouTube clip posted earlier, and I'm once again struck that Stefan is just about the only person on the whole British media landscape who knows what he's talking about in relation to this case.

His point that this is either truly one of the great corporate accounting scandals or the PL have unknowingly overstepped its authority is a comfort tbh. I don't think they have the evidence to prove what they have alleged, and if they have then the club really, really fucked up and we need to accept our punishment.

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

Just remember, nothing about this process is impartial. We’re getting fucked in the ass regardless of evidence. This is why we need the independent regulator.

The White Paper is on the internet and I took a look this morning. The initial proposals are wide in scope. Clearly there is work to do to,initially pass the legislation into law and then create a working framework with processes and procedures. These review and refresh current practices including no doubt the current closed shop disciplinary and punishment mechanisms.

The Paper indicates that the Regulator may operate like the FCA or Mergers and Monopolies Commission.

Of interest to us I could only find this wording on regulatory decisions and sanctions.

Structures​

Separation of decision-makers

11.10. The Regulator would have an expert advisory panel, appointed by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport and separate from the Board. Panel members would have expertise across a range of sectors and disciplines, including football. The Board would be able to draw on the Panel to form a Regulatory Decisions Committee (RDC) to advise on certain key or complex regulatory decisions, such as enforcement action.

Watch this space.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Am I right in saying that the only thing that has brought this thread to life, is the Everton points deduction, and that nothing has changed with regards to the charges leveled against us?

And that no one actual knows about when any hearing is going to take place?

I understand that the Everton situation has sent some shockwaves throughout out fan base but it's been made clear the two situations are not comparable, with this in mind are we not going around in circles?

You're correct that nothing has seemingly changed in our situation, but the Everton points deduction has opened it up again. However it's the media harping on about and comparing the Everton situation to ours.