PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

oakiecokie said:
We have lawyers who will eat to the bones of all charges, of that I have no doE
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Paladin said:
I'm not sure where you get all this information from, but from what I've read, the PL recommended a punishment of 6 points, plus one additional point for each £5m expenditure above the threshold. To me that should be 6 points for a failing of £0-£5m, 7 points for £5m-£10m, 8 points for £10m-£15m, 9 points for £15m-£20m. Everton failed by £19.5m, so that's a 9 point points deduction recommended by the PL, from my understanding.

It could be argued that failing by £0-£5m should invite an additional point deduction, and each other band increasing by a point, resulting in a 10 point recommendation for Everton. I have read that the PL has guidelines for P&S failures, but these guidelines are not published in the PL Handbook, and I haven't found them published elsewhere.

The commission decided against using the PL recommendation, but applied is own sanction, which happens to be very similar to the recommended sanction.

This is in Section 13 of the Everton judgment document.
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I agree with your EFC calcs, but we are facing a x 10 sanction, which if applied would easily lead to relegation. The cost of that plus loss of ECL revenue plus unimaginable compensation claims would run into hundreds of millions. The Everton ruling has changed everything, our next move will be an application to the High Court any day soon. The risks are too high to leave it to Richard Masters’s kangaroo court. We may as well spend the next Xmillion pounds on legal costs for a real court.
So I want to see the prospect of Richard Master’s facing the lawyers of Etihad Airaways etc in a court of Law and under oath explaining exactly what his compelling evidence of corruption actually is.
 
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Revolver said:
Martin Samuel. The only journalist with the guts to point out that so called “financial fair play” is unfair and designed to help the “elite” clubs.

Samuel could easily joint the pack that lesser “journalists” run with. Where no thought or bravery is shown but the same old tired articles brought out.

It would be easy for Samuel to pick on the clubs with the Middle East owners and ignore those teams as it pays to play to the masses.

At least one journalist dares to be different.
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Martin Samuel has been banging the same drum for years.

TBF he wasn't without support from some of the guests on the old Sunday Supplement and SKY pundits who broadly agreed with the arguments. Neville is well known but off the top of my head I can think of Neil Custis, Nial Quinn and James Ducker who were all opposed. There were more as well.

Problem is that when we got to the build up to the 2014 settlement and beyond, many of those not supporting FFP shifted the argument. The revised view was we have no choice but to follow the rules and if we don't like them we had to fight them in court. We didn't pursue that and took the pinch instead
 
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If we are fortunate enough to win the league for a record breaking 4th time, personally I’d like to see Richard masters introduced to crowd before he hands over the trophy. As a club and fan base we are far to nice to his like and all the journalists. Can you imagine what the dippers would be like if the roles were reversed.
 
LeonardoDaVnci said:
Richard Masters’s allegations are of a criminal nature, the charges are crystal clear, falsified accounting and over stating revenues in a multi million pound business is NOT for an internal sporting committee to resolve. The accusations are also aimed at companies like Etihad Airways etc. Why the hell should they let their businesses be denigrated by the likes of Richard Masters and Daniel Levy. It should be heard in a court of Law. Reputational damage and the Streisand effect are hardly a concern for City now in the short term, our reputation has been annihilated. We need to fight back in a court of Law pdq. What are the down sides of that approach ? It’s escalating the whole thing but compared to what ? Richard Master’s kangaroo court. If it was me and I knew I was innocent I would want those criminal charges removed before discussing the length of the grass issues with Masters.
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Levy is in the back pockets of the red teams and he wants to be in their gang.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
The shit will hit the fan when we do disprove all the charges , Gas Mk10 piss boiling
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This is the thing that worries me. For City to be found innocent will be very embarrassing for the pl. The pl have allowed the American owners to push the pl to this point.
For the pl to falsely bring 115 charges against one of its members would be a disaster for the pl.

This is why I think City will not get a independent hearing. I know people say those doing the hearing are KC but the British judicial service is riddled with wrong doings.
 
give it to gordon said:
This is the thing that worries me. For City to be found innocent will be very embarrassing for the pl. The pl have allowed the American owners to push the pl to this point.
For the pl to falsely bring 115 charges against one of its members would be a disaster for the pl.

This is why I think City will not get a independent hearing. I know people say those doing the hearing are KC but the British judicial service is riddled with wrong doings.
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The whole Everton situation is already proving embarrassing to the Premier League with the people sitting on the panel having vested interests in Leeds and West Ham. Then there’s the scattergun process of the ten point sanction. Heads should roll over this and Master’s won’t survive. They’ve already botched one teams hearing, where they have admitted the charges now they have to take on City who have admitted nothing.
 
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