PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

GortonBlue62 said:
I know you're not there to defend City. I know you're there to promote yourself. Absolutely no problem with that. In fact it makes your opinions even more valuable to people like me because it means your one of the few people worth listening to.

I'll stress, once again, my gratitude to people like you for sharing your expertise with us, but the fact remains the TS studio is not an environment you're able to thrive in. You are too measured, too polite, too slow to compete with those bastards.

Your strength is the written word and an environment where you have time to make your points to people who will give you a fair hearing.

My only concern is Manchester City, not your hurt feelings about being taken to the cleaners on national radio, yet again.

Fully braced for another thread ban for having the temerity to say anything negative about you, but I stand by the points I've made.
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Never wrestle with a pig; you'll both get dirty, and the pig likes it.
 
Sheikh rattle and roll said:
I understand that however if Mancini is on board and has had an adequate briefing by our barrister
His evidence completely blows the PL out of the water and takes away the integrity re that allegation
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What integrity? There was never any there in the first place to take away.
 
Jordan always refers back to the post office case whenever stefan states that the prem league need to prove that a conspiracy has taken place. He is obviously letting everyone know that conspiracies do happen. Problem with those comparisons is, it took a while, but when in the correct forum that post office conspiracy was unpicked by real hard evidence which is hard to refute on. The city case is based on a handful of emails which are probably alot more simplier to refute.
 
blueparrot said:
He isn't there to change Jordans mind, just to stae the facts to counter what Jordan says.Agree though it's a bit tedious now though because nothing will change for months, but as long as TS want to keep repeating the same thing it will carry on.Then again same could be said of this thread.
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Because of the comments on here I just went and listened to the interview
I thought Stefan came across very well
If you look at the smug look on Jordan’s face it looks like he’s eating a bitter lemon constantly over talking - Tosser
Well done Stephan
 
HorlockofFiretopMountain said:
I have lurked in the background and followed the conversations for a long while now. Not sure why I thought to join in now, but here I am.

Interesting thoughts. The idea of moving money around and funnelling foreign currency in through a single account isn't so fanciful, many companies do this as a way of protecting the value of their cash.

In fact (and you may already know this) a couple of the emails refer to these ideas. There is one which mentions a payment from Etisalat to ADUG and another which mentions moving money between accounts (albeit GBP to Euros) to hedge against currency fluctuations.
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Not surprised.
I know when trading as a company with another currency one will receive over a period of time then banks will give a constant rate for that currency. That is they take the exchange rate risk.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
That wouldn't work on the radio, but if you could go back to 10:55, would you consider interrupting and dealing with SJ's points?

Or are you happy with how it went?
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Yes, generally happy. Not possible to deal with all his points in such a forum, on his show, with a host and a break coming up. I am only able to choose which points to deal with and how.

Do you debate by simply talking over someone?
 
supercity88 said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about and Stefan knows it's a waste of time even trying to argue with him. He suggests City are being obstructive, that there are examples of large scale fraud or conspiracies/scandals (Enron and the Post Office) and his obsession with our owners being dodgy means he concludes we must be guilty. I would have liked Stefan to ask him how many other scandals of such nature he can name...there's a reason these things stick in the mind, and that's because they don't happen very fucking often!

As Stefan says, if we were trying to get away with something it would be incredibly odd to have been willing to take it this far. There weren't inconsistencies at CAS, I don't believe Jordan has ever read that decision - not in any depth. He still thinks we were guilty but for loopholes and that the fine amounts to guilt in any case.
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Don't forget all of the charges at Cas were time-barred according to the simple one.
 
nu774ll said:
What I love most about the PL is they let Thaksin take over and nearly ruin the club and would have just left us to go bankrupt, but as soon as investment comes in and brings money into the team and league it’s cheating.

Should a shoddly run establishment
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He'd have never taken us bankrupt. He buried good fortune Crystals all around the pitch
 
slbsn said:
Yes, generally happy. Not possible to deal with all his points in such a forum, on his show, with a host and a break coming up. I am only able to choose which points to deal with and how.

Do you debate by simply talking over someone?
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He didn't like your reply so him and White just butted in and started speaking very loudly.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Your point regarding the trend for written documentation has been brought into many sectors of business.
I have been retired for some time now but recently the people who pay my pension including my state pension are requiring written evidence that I am effectively still alive.
They ask for various documents, my signature on various statements and all countersigned by a lawyer / solicitor.
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Exactly. This is a normal way of working nowadays. It would seem a bit ridiculous to go to the effort (and it's no small effort) to put all this in place and provide approved information in a required format only for the someone or some organisation to insist that we should only rely on the "he said, she said" of a bunch of emails.

I recieve and respond to emails on a routine basis. The number of emails where the author misrepresents what's actually happening in a real process is surprisingly high. Mainly due the fact they haven't read the steps and instead have relied on a brew room explanation to help them understand how it works....I exaggerate of course, but I hope the jist is there :)
 
GortonBlue62 said:
I know you're not there to defend City. I know you're there to promote yourself. Absolutely no problem with that. In fact it makes your opinions even more valuable to people like me because it means your one of the few people worth listening to.

I'll stress, once again, my gratitude to people like you for sharing your expertise with us, but the fact remains the TS studio is not an environment you're able to thrive in. You are too measured, too polite, too slow to compete with those bastards.

Your strength is the written word and an environment where you have time to make your points to people who will give you a fair hearing.

My only concern is Manchester City, not your hurt feelings about being taken to the cleaners on national radio, yet again.

Fully braced for another thread ban for having the temerity to say anything negative about you, but I stand by the points I've made.
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What you want and what he allowed to say may well be very different, we are blessed with one voice on a media where we are hated, that makes a lot of money out of that hate, it is a voice that likely would have been very short lived if you/me would have had our input. :)
 
slbsn said:
Yes, generally happy. Not possible to deal with all his points in such a forum, on his show, with a host and a break coming up. I am only able to choose which points to deal with and how.

Do you debate by simply talking over someone?
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I can be a little aggressive in arguments but not to the point of stopping the other person getting their points across.

I'd love you to go on Simon Jordan's podcast. I've seen some clips and in that more relaxed environment he does let his guest speak at length.

Has it ever been suggested?
 
Alas, Stefan can only get a certain number of points across in a certain amount of time. An hour-long podcast is usually the best bet because thorough explanations can be provided to questions posed by a host willing to listen. The problem is essentially that Stefan plays chess whilst Jordan and White play draughts. Fundamentally, Talksport listeners have the attention span of a lobotomised goldfish so Stefan just has to do what he can in such a limited space.
 
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