PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[johncity]

worth an oggle...

Wow this is so so good

 

[jamielowndes]

It’s that aspect that worries me. I am sure we are innocent but I fear the panel will feel under huge pressure to find us guilty in contrast to CAS who were not subject to constant media and public nonsense.

The panel won't be affected by it at all. If anyone on the panel is subject to media influence they'd be removed. As much as people want to argue otherwise (proving my point straight away) they're going to be a neutral panel.

If there was any hint of bias, I guarantee the club are on their marks just waiting for a justifiable reason to sue.

But ultimately for a lot of people, they've created a parallel between us and Forest/Everton where the big clubs get favourable treatment. Nobody even knows what we've been charged for. They just think we've done what Everton and Forest have done 115 times.

 

[KS55]

The panel won't be affected by it at all. If anyone on the panel is subject to media influence they'd be removed. As much as people want to argue otherwise (proving my point straight away) they're going to be a neutral panel.

If there was any hint of bias, I guarantee the club are on their marks just waiting for a justifiable reason to sue.

But ultimately for a lot of people, they've created a parallel between us and Forest/Everton where the big clubs get favourable treatment. Nobody even knows what we've been charged for. They just think we've done what Everton and Forest have done 115 times.

I hope you’re right.

 

[jamielowndes]

I hope you’re right.

I genuinely don't think the Prem are out to "get" us.

In my opinion, the PL have found some kind of smoke regarding the things named (Mancini, Etisalat, player wages etc) and they've rightfully done their due diligence.

However the club refused to cooperate with any investigation. Therefore the PL has reason to believe we're cheating and has no proof that we aren't.

There is no way in hell the businessmen running the club would let it go this far of they didn't have the evidence they needed to exonerate us. If we get proved guilty of everything, it absolutely destroys the clubs standing in football. And I mean actual football, not dickheads who live on Twitter or spend 8 hours a day in front of their podcasting equipment.

I believe we'll take a heavy fine for the non-cooperation and the club are prepared for that as collateral damage.

The PL let it stew too long from the announcement and we're going to let them take the fall for that.

 

[Centurions]

No chance.

With how insanely slanted media is now, you don't have to accept reality. You can just double down and say its a fix.

I knew people who claimed we'd paid off CAS. An independent arbitrator was apparently open to being bribed by a team charged with improper financial conduct.

Once talk of being thrown out of the league or having trophies stripped started, people had already made their minds up. If they don't get what they want, it's some kind of collusion.

Two downsides of Klopp leaving is that they might not bother asking him for his opinion when the not guilty decision is published (remember his "a bad day for football" when CAS cleared us?) The other downside is not seeing him even more broken than he appears now by Pep.

Was he ever pulled up on his "a bad day..." comment?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I genuinely don't think the Prem are out to "get" us.

In my opinion, the PL have found some kind of smoke regarding the things named (Mancini, Etisalat, player wages etc) and they've rightfully done their due diligence.

However the club refused to cooperate with any investigation. Therefore the PL has reason to believe we're cheating and has no proof that we aren't.

There is no way in hell the businessmen running the club would let it go this far of they didn't have the evidence they needed to exonerate us. If we get proved guilty of everything, it absolutely destroys the clubs standing in football. And I mean actual football, not dickheads who live on Twitter or spend 8 hours a day in front of their podcasting equipment.

I believe we'll take a heavy fine for the non-cooperation and the club are prepared for that as collateral damage.

The PL let it stew too long from the announcement and we're going to let them take the fall for that.

Yeah, the PL have found some evidence, we refused to cooperate meaning they have none of this evidence to convict, and now we are paying for that non cooperation. At the same time the PL is not run for the likes of Utd or lfc and City have not upset anyone with our success over the years. Everyone is just doing their due diligence and there are no politics.

Its an alternate world that but I will consider it.

 

[Keeper!]

Yeah, the PL have found some evidence, we refused to cooperate meaning they have none of this evidence to convict, and now we are paying for that non cooperation. At the same time the PL is not run for the likes of Utd or lfc and City have not upset anyone with our success over the years. Everyone is just doing their due diligence and there are no politics.

Its an alternate world that but I will consider it.

Any club that has had a period of domination has been hated, don't kid yourself.

In my lifetime Leeds, Liverpool, rags, Arsenal, Chelsea and us have suffered lots of hatred.

Only two off the top of my head were welcomed, Blackburn and Leicester, both because they were one offs.

 

[Centurions]

This is why I don't understand what the PL is doing. CAS was unequivocal about the emails not being enough evidence and City provided the follow ups that proved their innocence or CAS would have ruled for UEFA. So the PL reacts to this by bringing a massive fraud case against City and doesn't appear to have any more evidence than UEFA did. Mind-boggling and seems destined for massive failure unless the commission is inclined to rule against City.

The PL would have already started their investigation before CAS published their findings. I do wonder what would have happened if the Mail(?) hadn't forced things in court "in the public interest". Would the PL have quietly closed the investigation with a bland "nothing to see here" statement?

 

[Centurions]

Yeah, the PL have found some evidence, we refused to cooperate meaning they have none of this evidence to convict, and now we are paying for that non cooperation. At the same time the PL is not run for the likes of Utd or lfc and City have not upset anyone with our success over the years. Everyone is just doing their due diligence and there are no politics.

Its an alternate world that but I will consider it.

By the sounds of it we took matters to court a number of times disputing what the PL could ask for, they would have said "we want everything relevant" and we would have countered with "you're going to have to be more specific".

Don't forget that the PL have since revised their rules (mid investigation) so that they CAN ask for everything and we have to throw in the kitchen sink as well just in case it's relevant. I've no doubt that we took that to court also (not the kitchen sink) as the PL would have been trying to retrospectively use the new rules against us.

 

[Goats left knee]

100% the other fans will say we “got off”, bribed/paid our way out of it and everything is tainted.
They tell me we got off CAS cos so much was time barred. I think they have all been brain washed and pool fans in particular so full of anguish and pain they absolutely hate us