PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[give it to gordon]

I hope, when the begging bowl for legal fees came round to us, Khaldoon pissed in it and said boil that!! On a serious note, would we be expected to pay towards the PL case against us and have the teams that were in the PL over the years had to pay, so all in all it is around 30 clubs paying/missing out??

I guess City wouldn't be paying for action taken against City. So if it has cost clubs 2 million lost income City should still get that 2 million, can't see how City can lose 2 million quid in income. Surely City won't be expected to pay towards the pl legal charges.

Again what happens if City sue the pl and win. City can't be expected to part pay damages against themselves.

 

[Blueknows]

I can’t believe we’ve had the audacity to defend ourselves and single handedly ruin football AND bankrupt everyone that exists.
We really are a set of bastards

If you think the piss boiling will be seismic when we are cleared wait until all the works finished around the stadium and all the new sponsorship opportunities that come with it , whens the etihad deal up for renewal ?

 

[mancboy]

You’ve not worked in the NHS have you ;)

Yeah some non medical person telling you how long a procedure that they have never undertaken should take to get waiting lists down for over subscribed clinics is always fun.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I guess City wouldn't be paying for action taken against City. So if it has cost clubs 2 million lost income City should still get that 2 million, can't see how City can lose 2 million quid in income. Surely City won't be expected to pay towards the pl legal charges.

Again what happens if City sue the pl and win. City can't be expected to part pay damages against themselves.

If only we could get out of the dressing room on time eh?

 

[mattcity5]

I guess City wouldn't be paying for action taken against City. So if it has cost clubs 2 million lost income City should still get that 2 million, can't see how City can lose 2 million quid in income. Surely City won't be expected to pay towards the pl legal charges.

Again what happens if City sue the pl and win. City can't be expected to part pay damages against themselves.

I think.... The clubs don't pay these costs, it just means that the prize money for each position will be reduced. I guess that would indirectly impact us though, so any costs/damages due to us (if cleared) would be separate.

That's just my best guess though.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I guess City wouldn't be paying for action taken against City. So if it has cost clubs 2 million lost income City should still get that 2 million, can't see how City can lose 2 million quid in income. Surely City won't be expected to pay towards the pl legal charges.

Again what happens if City sue the pl and win. City can't be expected to part pay damages against themselves.

Of course we would, indirectly. The money just comes directly from the FA budget. The FA aren't sending itemised invoices to each club for each case!

 

[give it to gordon]

I think.... The clubs don't pay these costs, it just means that the prize money for each position will be reduced. I guess that would indirectly impact us though, so any costs/damages due to us (if cleared) would be separate.

That's just my best guess though.

I dont see why City's prize money should be reduced. Pay all the other clubs less prize money by all means.
Just seems bizarre that City prize money takes a hit because of the legal case against City.

I dont get how its legal for City to part fund the case against City. So City are paying for the pl and City's lawyers. Crazy.

Reminds me of a woman who wanted to sue her golf club for damages. It turnout she couldnt sue herself so she couldn't sue the golf club as she was a member.

 

[pudge]

Awk sure no news again is it?

 

[mattcity5]

I dont see why City's prize money should be reduced. Pay all the other clubs less prize money by all means.
Just seems bizarre that City prize money takes a hit because of the legal case against City.

I dont get how its legal for City to part fund the case against City. So City are paying for the pl and City's lawyers

I'm guessing our prize money would come down like everyone else's, but we'd possibly be compensated separately so it wouldn't matter. Possibly.

 

[cheekybids]

You can get pretty much what you want out of Chat GPT and the likes depending on how you ask the question.

When people just post the output it can be a bit misleading. I wish people would always post the question that they asked also.

“Give me a disparaging opinion of Alison Brittain where she is at fault for everything…..”

I actually asked a number of questions ins conversational sense so from each answer asked again.

What is the role of the premier league chair of a board & relationship with the ceo?
Would Alison Brittain have had full knowledge of the premier leagues intention to charge Man City with the 115. I note she only started a few weeks earlier?
Would she have had full knowledge of the APT case that City won & should she bare any responsibility for it?
Has her role of governance been questioned?

 

[waspish]

Rag on talkshite just threw in there Man City cooked the books and they let it go without anyone saying you can’t say That!

You see big organisations now with the narrative that’s been pumped out for years thinks it’s fine for this without any come back that you can’t say that!

 

[give it to gordon]

Rag on talkshite just threw in there Man City cooked the books and they let it go without anyone saying you can’t say That!

You see big organisations now with the narrative that’s been pumped out for years thinks it’s fine for this without any come back that you can’t say that!

Says a rag who club use red football Ltd for they pl books lol

 

[citizen_maine]

Of course we would, indirectly. The money just comes directly from the FA budget. The FA aren't sending itemised invoices to each club for each case!

Who?


:-)

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

Genuinely mental moment last night. Found my old Championship Manager 99/00 game and tried to set it up on my laptop.

Got this error message. I swear the number 115 just follows us around!!

 

[TheGhost]

I hope, when the begging bowl for legal fees came round to us, Khaldoon pissed in it and said boil that!! On a serious note, would we be expected to pay towards the PL case against us and have the teams that were in the PL over the years had to pay, so all in all it is around 30 clubs paying/missing out??

The Price of Football podcast answered your final question.

The legal fees are paid each year by the clubs in the Premier League for that season. The money comes directly out of the TV money before it’s then distributed to the clubs.

So if a club hadn’t been in the Premier League before, like Luton Town 2 years ago, they still received 1/20 less of the TV money minus legal fees, even though the legal cases had nothing to do with them before they were promoted to the PL.

What is interesting though is because the 3 clubs that went down came straight back up again last season, the Premier League will be paying around £40m less parachute payments. Which is more or less the figure being bandied about for the PL legal fees are for the City 115/130 case.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Reminds me of a woman who wanted to sue her golf club for damages. It turnout she couldnt sue herself so she couldn't sue the golf club as she was a member.

There is absolutely no legal bar for her to do this, as her and the club are separate legal personalities, but even if there was the remedy would surely be for her to resign as a member for breach of contract and then initiate a claim? In fact that’s exactly what she should do in those circumstances.

 

[Blue Pete]

Certain clubs, you say?

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And I'm the conspiracy nut for talking about a red cartel

 

[TheGhost]

The Price of Football podcast answered your final question.

The legal fees are paid each year by the clubs in the Premier League for that season. The money comes directly out of the TV money before it’s then distributed to the clubs.

So if a club hadn’t been in the Premier League before, like Luton Town 2 years ago, they still received 1/20 less of the TV money minus legal fees, even though the legal cases had nothing to do with them before they were promoted to the PL.

What is interesting though is because the 3 clubs that went down came straight back up again last season, the Premier League will be paying around £40m less parachute payments. Which is more or less the figure being bandied about for the PL legal fees are for the City 115/130 case.

Whether City have to pay their share of the legal fees wasn’t clear but again I think that’s probably a legal argument. The PL would say that we have to pay our share towards the governance of the league.
City will argue this whole process is a waste of time and the PL should be managing itself better. As a layman I would guess the PL’s case is stronger.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I dont see why City's prize money should be reduced. Pay all the other clubs less prize money by all means.
Just seems bizarre that City prize money takes a hit because of the legal case against City.

I dont get how its legal for City to part fund the case against City. So City are paying for the pl and City's lawyers. Crazy.

Reminds me of a woman who wanted to sue her golf club for damages. It turnout she couldnt sue herself so she couldn't sue the golf club as she was a member.

It doesn't work like that. You can't itemise everything. The FA have loads of legal issues and a budget to cover it. Same with their other expenses.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

In the scheme of things, £10 million per club over a three year period isn’t an eye-watering sum.

Plus it sounds like a fabricated number to me. Be surprised it’s more than half that, which makes it about the same as the Mancini payment p.a. for each PL club.

Wonder what Pannick has billed on this job. Got to be north of a couple million quid for what will amount to about six months work in total I’d guess. Would love to see his fee note for this job.

The sols will have had to put a lot of hours in, given the amount of material being in circulation, both ways. So those billable hours won’t have come cheap.

But I’d be utterly amazed if the legal bill is even close to £200 million. In the realm of commercial disputes this one isn’t especially complex and nor did it involve any novel points of law that require forensic exploration. It’s pretty much a fact based exercise as far as I can see. It also hasn’t involved a series of appeals to higher tribunals either, unlike most litigation of repute.

So I call bullshit on that figure.

Given that it was leaked to the Times by either Levy or another Club Director at Arsenal or LFC you are right to be cautious about the figure. Perhaps they are blaming costs as a way out.