PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I'm wondering if this is just the PL posturing to the cartel.

They, and the cartel, especially the rags and dippers, know deep down that they can't prove their extraordinary allegations in a real court of law, so they release their case via the media knowing the shitstorm it will create will paint us in more of a negative light than usual.

They then win in the court of public opinion and hope the fallout will damage us as a club and result in us not winning titles, top players not signing until it all dies down and players and possibly Pep leaving.

I just can't believe that if the PL and UEFA knew that this was going on, especially since 2009, that they would've waited so long to charge us, so this is their last chance to hurt us as a club & appease the cartel.

COME ON CITY win this case and then take the cunts down one by one!
 
No, I'm more of the opinion that we probably did some dodgy stuff, but it's impossible for the PL to prove unless they have a source of evidence we don't know about. Stefan mentioned a whistleblower in the Twitter conference yesterday, I'm thinking more like they've been handed the full trove of leaked documents.

Why would Pinto hold stuff back from UEFA/CAS?
 
No, I'm more of the opinion that we probably did some dodgy stuff, but it's impossible for the PL to prove unless they have a source of evidence we don't know about. Stefan mentioned a whistleblower in the Twitter conference yesterday, I'm thinking more like they've been handed the full trove of leaked documents.
How does one go about even proving this? It seems unlikely they can ask Etihad or ADUG for their bank accounts..they will be asked to piss off..The money probably came from Etihad (even if ADUG was the one who sent it.) It would be really sloppy to send it directly right? So what they are gonna do? Look at every transaction between Etihad and ADUG and conclude actually came from ADUG somehow? Seems near impossible..
 
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Man City ‘thrown under the bus’ by Premier League in attempt to avoid independent regulator​

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A football finance expert tells i that the timing of the Premier League announcement was ‘as much to do with politics as it is to with Man City’​

The club's badge is pictured on the outside of English Premier League football club Manchester City's Etihad stadium in Manchester, north-west England on April 20, 2021. - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will host a meeting of football chiefs and fans' representatives today as they consider what action to take over the proposed European Super League. (Photo by Paul ELLIS / AFP) (Photo by PAUL ELLIS/AFP via Getty Images)
City are charged with over 100 breaches over a nine-year period (Photo: Getty)
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By Mark Douglas
Northern Football Correspondent
February 7, 2023 12:16 pm(Updated 12:22 pm)

The Premier League have “thrown Manchester City under the bus” in an attempt to head an independent regulator off at the pass, a football finance expert has told i.
The Premier League’s decision to levy more than 100 charges against City – broadly covering three misdemeanours, from artificially inflating income to artificially deflating costs by funnelling payments through a third party and refusing to co-operate – sent shockwaves through the industry.
It tees up a rolling battle between the club and the Premier League with no set end date and potentially huge ramifications for the competition and City as a club. One observer told i it had potential to be the “biggest scandal in English sport” but it’s widely acknowledged it could take years to resolve.

The Premier League, which carried out a wide-ranging four-year investigation into City that was led by their in-house law firm Bird & Bird, believes it has a tight case against the reigning champions.
But the club issued a punchy statement welcoming the prospect of an independent commission investigating the allegations. They are understood to be sceptical at the timing of the announcement and intend to robustly fight their case.

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While fans’ thoughts predictably turned to possible punishments and the incredible prospect of City’s unprecedented era of success being unpicked in an airy courtroom or arbitration chamber, it is worth placing the Monday’s announcement in the context of the Premier League’s battle to resist an independent regulator.
That appears to be around the corner – the Government are preparing to publish a white paper into football governance later this month. The ongoing investigation into City, conducted in private with little transparency about the case, has been raised by some in power as proof that the Premier League is not fit to regulate or govern its own members.
With that in mind, football finance expert Kieran Maguire believes that Manchester City have ended up as collateral.
“We’ve never seen the Premier League take one of its own members, one of its shareholders to task to this extent for a breach of rules,” Maguire told i on a “momentous day”.
“But the timing is intriguing given the White Paper was due to be published in 48 hours – although it’s now been pushed back for another fortnight. The investigation has been going on for four years.
“Manchester City didn’t see this day coming. They are absolutely livid. They have not been given the opportunity to come to a joint statement with the Premier League, they feel in their mind they had been co-operating. They are fuming.
“The Premier League were quite happy to throw them under the bus because of their opposition to the White Paper and what they are trying to do is they are capable of looking after their house and there’s no need for a regulator.
“It’s as much to do with politics as it is to do with Manchester City.”

Alleged breaches over a nine-year period​

The alleged breaches span a period from the 2009-10 season to the 2017-18 campaign.
First, the club are alleged to have breached league rules requiring provision “in utmost good faith” of “accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position”.
The league says the information that was required relates to “revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs”.
The second set of breaches refers to the alleged breaking of rules “requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager” related to seasons 2009-10 to 2012-13 inclusive.
The club’s manager between December 2009 and May 2013 was current Italy boss Roberto Mancini.
The second set also refers to requirements for a club to include full details of player remuneration within the relevant contracts, for the seasons 2010-11 to 2015-16 inclusive.
The third section deals with alleged breaches of Premier League rules requiring clubs to comply with UEFA Financial Fair Play regulations, between 2013-14 to 2017-18.
The fourth set of alleged breaches relates to the Premier League’s profitability and sustainability rules in seasons 2015-16 to 2017-18 inclusive.
Finally, the club are alleged to have breached league rules requiring member clubs to co-operate with and assist the Premier League with its investigations, from December 2018 to date.
To add to the irony of Monday’s announcement, City are the only club in the top six who are in favour of an independent regulator.
These are serious charges, of course. If City are found guilty they can expect the book to be thrown at them. But the arguments around owner investment and what we want governance and ownership in English football to look like have only just begun.
“FFP was brought in because of Man City and now they’ve been charged with it,” Maguire contends.
“Some form of cost control does benefit football but what type of financial fair play depends on where you are as a football club. Some owners want an American franchise style cap and collar system which allows them to maximise profits and increases the values of their clubs.
“We’ve got owners like that of Man City and Chelsea who want a less severe system because they measure success on the pitch rather than off it in terms of financial achievements.
“It is entirely tribal and based on self interest.”
Whatever happens, Maguire warns there is little prospect of a quick resolution.
“Given they had no notice that these charges were going to be made, it will be a lengthy process,” he said.
“There are over 100 charges. That’s a lot and it will require a long period of time to put together their defence.”


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Why would Pinto hold stuff back from UEFA/CAS?

They never even asked him for it. Probably because he hacked several of their member clubs.

They never asked der Spiegel either, but in the aftermath of CAS I think I remember Der Spiegel complaining about that, so maybe PL did what UEFA wouldn’t?
 
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Man City ‘thrown under the bus’ by Premier League in attempt to avoid independent regulator​

INTERVIEW

A football finance expert tells i that the timing of the Premier League announcement was ‘as much to do with politics as it is to with Man City’​

The club's badge is pictured on the outside of English Premier League football club Manchester City's Etihad stadium in Manchester, north-west England on April 20, 2021. - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will host a meeting of football chiefs and fans' representatives today as they consider what action to take over the proposed European Super League. (Photo by Paul ELLIS / AFP) (Photo by PAUL ELLIS/AFP via Getty Images)'s badge is pictured on the outside of English Premier League football club Manchester City's Etihad stadium in Manchester, north-west England on April 20, 2021. - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will host a meeting of football chiefs and fans' representatives today as they consider what action to take over the proposed European Super League. (Photo by Paul ELLIS / AFP) (Photo by PAUL ELLIS/AFP via Getty Images)
City are charged with over 100 breaches over a nine-year period (Photo: Getty)
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By Mark Douglas
Northern Football Correspondent
February 7, 2023 12:16 pm(Updated 12:22 pm)

The Premier League have “thrown Manchester City under the bus” in an attempt to head an independent regulator off at the pass, a football finance expert has told i.
The Premier League’s decision to levy more than 100 charges against City – broadly covering three misdemeanours, from artificially inflating income to artificially deflating costs by funnelling payments through a third party and refusing to co-operate – sent shockwaves through the industry.
It tees up a rolling battle between the club and the Premier League with no set end date and potentially huge ramifications for the competition and City as a club. One observer told i it had potential to be the “biggest scandal in English sport” but it’s widely acknowledged it could take years to resolve.

The Premier League, which carried out a wide-ranging four-year investigation into City that was led by their in-house law firm Bird & Bird, believes it has a tight case against the reigning champions.
But the club issued a punchy statement welcoming the prospect of an independent commission investigating the allegations. They are understood to be sceptical at the timing of the announcement and intend to robustly fight their case.

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While fans’ thoughts predictably turned to possible punishments and the incredible prospect of City’s unprecedented era of success being unpicked in an airy courtroom or arbitration chamber, it is worth placing the Monday’s announcement in the context of the Premier League’s battle to resist an independent regulator.
That appears to be around the corner – the Government are preparing to publish a white paper into football governance later this month. The ongoing investigation into City, conducted in private with little transparency about the case, has been raised by some in power as proof that the Premier League is not fit to regulate or govern its own members.
With that in mind, football finance expert Kieran Maguire believes that Manchester City have ended up as collateral.
“We’ve never seen the Premier League take one of its own members, one of its shareholders to task to this extent for a breach of rules,” Maguire told i on a “momentous day”.
“But the timing is intriguing given the White Paper was due to be published in 48 hours – although it’s now been pushed back for another fortnight. The investigation has been going on for four years.
“Manchester City didn’t see this day coming. They are absolutely livid. They have not been given the opportunity to come to a joint statement with the Premier League, they feel in their mind they had been co-operating. They are fuming.
“The Premier League were quite happy to throw them under the bus because of their opposition to the White Paper and what they are trying to do is they are capable of looking after their house and there’s no need for a regulator.
“It’s as much to do with politics as it is to do with Manchester City.”

To add to the irony of Monday’s announcement, City are the only club in the top six who are in favour of an independent regulator.
These are serious charges, of course. If City are found guilty they can expect the book to be thrown at them. But the arguments around owner investment and what we want governance and ownership in English football to look like have only just begun.
“FFP was brought in because of Man City and now they’ve been charged with it,” Maguire contends.
“Some form of cost control does benefit football but what type of financial fair play depends on where you are as a football club. Some owners want an American franchise style cap and collar system which allows them to maximise profits and increases the values of their clubs.
“We’ve got owners like that of Man City and Chelsea who want a less severe system because they measure success on the pitch rather than off it in terms of financial achievements.
“It is entirely tribal and based on self interest.”
Whatever happens, Maguire warns there is little prospect of a quick resolution.
“Given they had no notice that these charges were going to be made, it will be a lengthy process,” he said.
“There are over 100 charges. That’s a lot and it will require a long period of time to put together their defence.”


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Essentials​

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All rights reserved. © 2021 Associated Newspapers Limited.
Very interesting... but not at all surprising.
 
Agreed. We'll be made an example of. They wouldn't have bothered with a 4 year investigation if they didnt have strong evidence. The independent commission will feel pressure to throw the book at us.
It wasn't really 4 years as City went to court to prevent them being forced to hand over some documents which they last City and PL agreed to it being in private but the judge disagreed So effectively City only handed the documents in mid 2022
The independent commission will tread very carefully with the accusations and will want to be totally sure that the evidence is cast iron as the consequences of finding City in breach will be massive and would also open them up to litigation if City proven any wrong doings by them
Im totally convinced of the club's innocence and feel this is just regurgitated UEFA case the PL know it and its either to shut up the cartel or they are complicit and its designed to muddy City's reputation I also feel that its a big own goal and ultimately tarnishes the brand and feel sure they dont know what they have got involved with The owners are not to be messed with
 

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