mscenterh750
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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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have said exactly the same thing in a long winded rant but dadnlad put it way more succinctly than me.It really is just as simple as that.
the way richard keys is going i wouldnt count on it.And it’s live!!!
my only issue with doing it and i have no qualms with anyone accepting any work that they want to is that it gives these channels credibility that they dont deserve and havent earned is all, credit must go to stefan for fighting the good fight but these youtube channels are ten a penny and are given so much more credence that they deserve when they are for the most part just fan rants from lunatics.
Take goldbridges channel, his rants are given credibility to the point where he parlayed it into a slot on the radio but realistically who is he and why does he deserve that, he has no more qualifications than anyone else and has just ranted into a big platform and its the same with redmen tv and it could be said by engaging with these idiots it could sully your opinion although i dont think it does i wouldnt want them to drag stefan down to their level and beat him with experience.
You could take the point he’s not gone on Goldbridge, although that would be his choice.
However, the guy who interviewed on Redman was ok (he supports a different team and has different views and hopes for a different outcome), but he listened and asked questions his viewers would be interested in.
I think Goldbridge would be a lot more interrupting etc. You also have to remember Goldbridge doesn’t exist, it’s not the guys name and he plays a character (might as well go on Alan Partridge).
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That’s brightened my day up. Nice post.Possibly. What do you base that on? Just a feeling?
In my view, they have no chance of making the most serious allegations (funding of sponsorships and filing incorrect accounts) stick simply because, like UEFA, they won't have access to the evidence necessary to prove it whereas the club will have access to reams of counter-evidence to disprove it.
So what is left? The rest of the "financial" allegations are all old allegations, as far as we know, and will be time limited unless the PL can show fraud or deliberate concealment. Not easy. There are plenty of counter arguments for Mancini and Fordham. But, tbf, we don't know enough about Fordham and Toure to conclude, really. There may be terms in Fordham that affect the club's results. Toure may be the PL's best chance, but again it's difficult to assess without more information and the club so far generally seems to have had good arguments to support anything that has happened. And let's not forget the club made a very strong statement when the allegations were announced and have, apparently, turned down the offer of a settlement. So they must be confident.
Finally, I am not so sure non-cooperation is as easy to prove as some might think and the rest (PL FFP and UEFA licensing) fall away if the serious charges aren't proven, I think.
Disagree with any of that?
Manchester City are the excuse for the failure of others.It's their comfort blanket that explains why their team are shit and not special
Not criticising him for doing it im just saying i lump redmen and goldbridge and all the other channels like that in the same boat and none of them deserve the credibility of someone like stefan going onto to answer to them.You could take the point he’s not gone on Goldbridge, although that would be his choice.
However, the guy who interviewed on Redman was ok (he supports a different team and has different views and hopes for a different outcome), but he listened and asked questions his viewers would be interested in.
I think Goldbridge would be a lot more interrupting etc. You also have to remember Goldbridge doesn’t exist, it’s not the guys name and he plays a character (might as well go on Alan Partridge).
That is pretty much my view in a nutshell.Possibly. What do you base that on? Just a feeling?
In my view, they have no chance of making the most serious allegations (funding of sponsorships and filing incorrect accounts) stick simply because, like UEFA, they won't have access to the evidence necessary to prove it whereas the club will have access to reams of counter-evidence to disprove it.
So what is left? The rest of the "financial" allegations are all old allegations, as far as we know, and will be time limited unless the PL can show fraud or deliberate concealment. Not easy. There are plenty of counter arguments for Mancini and Fordham. But, tbf, we don't know enough about Fordham and Toure to conclude, really. There may be terms in Fordham that affect the club's results. Toure may be the PL's best chance, but again it's difficult to assess without more information and the club so far generally seems to have had good arguments to support anything that has happened. And let's not forget the club made a very strong statement when the allegations were announced and have, apparently, turned down the offer of a settlement. So they must be confident.
Finally, I am not so sure non-cooperation is as easy to prove as some might think and the rest (PL FFP and UEFA licensing) fall away if the serious charges aren't proven, I think.
Disagree with any of that?
The one point I don’t understand and maybe one of our legal experts can explain.
To accuse us of effectively cooking the books. They would need access to said books and the detail of the transactions.
I am pretty sure they haven’t.
So how can the PL get away with charging city on that with no evidence.
They could throw the same allegation out to any club in the league.
They should not be allowed to do so without substantial evidence
manimanc
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That is what khaldoon said and you are both right.Manchester City are the excuse for the failure of others.
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I also thought the press will ridiculous when it comes out with such a rush to be first to get an article out, so much will be missed and can probably pick various points accepted by either side to paint the picture they want on the tone of the article they want (so most probably how we got caught cheating or how we got away with cheating).
They will have written two articles already. If not on paper, then in their heads: " Cheating City face justice" and "City get away with it". They will just have to press a button.