PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

tolmie's hairdoo said:
The law may be an ass, but it also trumps everything else.

Much as we all would love a moment on the court steps and Khaldoon shouting we are now going to bury people, the notion is fanciful.

Pep has already said it, the slurs and damage to our reputation is already done, how do we truly get that back.

We don't.

City are confident in our legal counsel and position, that will do for me. The bar is incredibly high for essentially sending our Club in to extinction and pariah status.

We clear our name in Court, not in the court of Public opinion. We will likely have to take a gulp of some form of medicine, but we shouldn't care about that if it doesn't kill us.
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Without me sounding me like sycophant (ie a BBC / Sky journalist discussing utd /Liverpool) what you say reads great. (I appreciate you like anyone else here cannot guarantee we win).

And whilst I would like a Dickov / Aguero moment against these parts the courts are a bit less dramatic but a win possibly more important.

Let’s hope we can eventually going back to enjoying the actual game and trying to work out why the hell we don’t have a left back and who the hell are we signing based on your latest video.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
The law may be an ass, but it also trumps everything else.

Much as we all would love a moment on the court steps and Khaldoon shouting we are now going to bury people, the notion is fanciful.

Pep has already said it, the slurs and damage to our reputation is already done, how do we truly get that back.

We don't.

City are confident in our legal counsel and position, that will do for me. The bar is incredibly high for essentially sending our Club in to extinction and pariah status.

We clear our name in Court, not in the court of Public opinion. We will likely have to take a gulp of some form of medicine, but we shouldn't care about that if it doesn't kill us.
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You know what - I think Khaldoon might just a some stage. Fuming.
 
pardoeofftomexico said:
There is always a lot asked about why the PL have taken 4 years to get to this point. I am not sure it has. At least a good couple of years of that were probably taken up by City's case against the PL and then going to appeal. I think these cases started in 2019 and ended in 2021. I would find it unlikely that we would have been providing any information during that period.
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They probably worked on it for an hour a day on a Tuesday and Thursday every other week, and never during any lockdowns, in those four years. The rest of the time they’d have been having nice dinners on the PL or feet up at home.
 
domalino said:
From reading the CAS award it seems like pretty much nothing. I'm sure they have very good legal reasoning for that.


If they have refused to engage with the investigation at all and provide an alternative explanation to the emails then it's no surprise we've been charged again because what else can The PL do? It explains why we're going to this judicial panel, and why City are confident they'll win again.
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Sounds like the same result. I still do not understand why we were advised not to hand over certain evidence, if indeed that is the case. It would seem to guarantee a fine for non co-operation.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
The law may be an ass, but it also trumps everything else.

Much as we all would love a moment on the court steps and Khaldoon shouting we are now going to bury people, the notion is fanciful.

Pep has already said it, the slurs and damage to our reputation is already done, how do we truly get that back.

We don't.

City are confident in our legal counsel and position, that will do for me. The bar is incredibly high for essentially sending our Club in to extinction and pariah status.

We clear our name in Court, not in the court of Public opinion. We will likely have to take a gulp of some form of medicine, but we shouldn't care about that if it doesn't kill us.
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Confident in our position, need to take medicine, somewhat conflicting comments mate?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
My understanding of Portugese law is not great but I have been dipping into and out of the trial in the foreign media. Pinto has pleaded not guilty but has admitted asking for payment to return hacked documents to various football agents linked to Sporting Lisbon and Benfica. His absurd defence was that he was "just testing" to see if they would pay up as part of his "whistleblowing" activities and it wasn't really extortion! He has also admitted hacking into various bank accounts (including a pension fund) and transferring money into his own Swiss account which he then repaid later after cutting some deal with the bank where he helped them to prevent further thefts. It is all very strange. He is currently awaiting the verdict which is due in April.
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Sounds like he's a typical Dipper. Always the victim, never their fault.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
The law may be an ass, but it also trumps everything else.

Much as we all would love a moment on the court steps and Khaldoon shouting we are now going to bury people, the notion is fanciful.

Pep has already said it, the slurs and damage to our reputation is already done, how do we truly get that back.

We don't.

City are confident in our legal counsel and position, that will do for me. The bar is incredibly high for essentially sending our Club in to extinction and pariah status.

We clear our name in Court, not in the court of Public opinion. We will likely have to take a gulp of some form of medicine, but we shouldn't care about that if it doesn't kill us.
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It was good to see Preston MP Mark Hendrick speaking on Ian Cheeseman's latest matchday vlog. He described the PL decision to charge City as "a drive-by-shooting" and insisted it WAS connected directly to the plans for an independent regulator which has all-party backing. He said City had been unfairly targeted because they were the only club supporting independent regulation and he believed the club would take action against the PL when the case had been settled. He fully expects City to be cleared.
This is interesting because Hendrick( a long-time advocate for independent regulation) is well connected in high-level football circles and knows full well what is going on behind the scenes and also at Government level because Labour and Tory members have been working together on the regulator proposal.
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
It's about picking our battles.

We still have to exist in the Premier League eco-system.

Better to have won the day and cleared our name in a legal setting, than the hyperbole of Talk Sport and Daily Mail.

If we clear our name, nobody in the media would dare trot out the accusations again, certainly not at the expense of a serious lawsuit.

We win in the judicial hearing, we win on and off the pitch in so many ways.

City essentially become bullet proof.

That's worth any point scoring seeking redress from a Premier League that is still ran like a cartel.

The independent regulator is our bonus outcome.
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Not if but when we win Tolm, these horrible fuckers will have to toe the line & If we don't set an example when we win our case will we crush any fucker for talking out of line when its over saying we're paid our way out or we cheated the system again bla bla bla, surely then we go & kick there doors rite in???
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It was good to see Preston MP Mark Hendrick speaking on Ian Cheeseman's latest matchday vlog. He described the PL decision to charge City as "a drive-by-shooting" and insisted it WAS connected directly to the plans for an independent regulator which has all-party backing. He said City had been unfairly targeted because they were the only club supporting independent regulation and he believed the club would take action against the PL when the case had been settled. He fully expects City to be cleared.
This is interesting because Hendrick( a long-time advocate for independent regulation) is well connected in high-level football circles and knows full well what his going on behind the scenes and also at Government level because Labour and Tory members have been working together on the regulator proposal.
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Have you got a link
 
Get off the financial charges and that's about as good as we can expect. People will still think we're guilty, but that'll be the case whether we win, we lose or we sue the fuck out of everyone.

Even if we're guilty of non cooperation and clearer of everything else, that will be brilliant for us.
 
domalino said:
From reading the CAS award it seems like pretty much nothing. I'm sure they have very good legal reasoning for that.


If they have refused to engage with the investigation at all and provide an alternative explanation to the emails then it's no surprise we've been charged again because what else can The PL do? It explains why we're going to this judicial panel, and why City are confident they'll win again.
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Its far from as simple as that.

The PL initiated an arbitration panel to decide, if you like re documents and disclosure and City I believe challenged the PLs jurisdiction and the impartiality of any panel. The HC ruling went against City in effect re enforcing the contractual obligations of city to cooperate.
 
Gary James said:
It seems so long ago now but many of the negative MCFC stories started from the earliest days. Here’s a free article I wrote a few weeks back to appear today about this day in 2010. It includes material from an interview I did with Khaldoon years ago. It’s so frustrating - and damaging - that all of this has been going on for so long. Well worth looking at this piece to remember the stuff we faced back then!

gjfootballarchive.com

City, Negative Media, Khaldoon and Stoke 2010

I’m going to talk about a period when I got totally riled by the way Manchester City was being covered by some in the media. This was this month in 2010 when considerable negative coverage was thrown City’s way. At that time I was interviewing several key figures at City and the following piece...
gjfootballarchive.com gjfootballarchive.com
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Great retrieve. Sustained and consistent; we never had a chance of a level playing field did we?

I’ll never forget the day the news broke listening to 5live sport presented by Mark Saggers iirc, and the whole tone was so so negative.
 
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