PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

This is (if not already) going to be tedious for the next 3 or 4 years.

Still can’t believe this is the situation we’re in and it couldn’t have been sorted with the PL without it going so far.

I wonder if certain charges potentially drop 1 by 1 in the meantime whilst lawyers look at and discuss evidence. IE a panel will be the end game but with nothing like what's on the table currently?
 
Just as a side note, I know absolutely nothing about law, about running a football club or a business but are you telling me that Sheikh Mansour, a politician, a multi billionaire, deputy prime minister of The UAE, with a worldwide reputation, a minister of presidential Court will risk everything, his livelihood, his standing in the world to facilitate and oversee us breaking rules and knowingly allow it?

Do you also think khaldoon will risk his own reputation and then lie to Sheikh Mansour and tell him a completely different story to cover up these alleged issues and accusations?

No, me neither, the more I hear these clowns on TV and radio getting giddy telling us about the charges and knowing what I know about our owners and CEO's, I know who I believe.
I know a little about running a business. Number one, got to protect your intellectual property, I’m pretty sure the PL (read United/Liverpool/Arsenal) would be VERY interested in copying us like the Chinese copy US/European tech. So when they asked for EVERYTHING we probably told them to pi$$ off.
 
I'm sure once we're cleared with the Premier League charges the piss boiling wankers will find something else to go after us for.
I find it laughable that every other teams fans think out of the whole of the league only us are dodgy and cooking the books.


I'm sure when it gets cleared up there will be a huge, huge can of worms opened up.

Just as a side note, I know absolutely nothing about law, about running a football club or a business but are you telling me that Sheikh Mansour, a politician, a multi billionaire, deputy prime minister of The UAE, with a worldwide reputation, a minister of presidential Court will risk everything, his livelihood, his standing in the world to facilitate and oversee us breaking rules and knowingly allow it?

Do you also think khaldoon will risk his own reputation and then lie to Sheikh Mansour and tell him a completely different story to cover up these alleged issues and accusations?

No, me neither, the more I hear these clowns on TV and radio getting giddy telling us about the charges and knowing what I know about our owners and CEO's, I know who I believe.

This. It beggars belief.

The Sheikh and Khaldoon are not freaking stupid, whatever else they may be. I don't think the average tosser out there has a clue about what serious players these guys are. And neither is going to want to go to the Boss Sheikh in the UAE, kaffiyeh in hand, and say: 'Er, sorry, Highness but we have majorly fucked up and caused the ruling family's name to be dragged through the mud and our entire country humiliated in one of our most important partner states. A thousand apologies, but it doesn't look good for our billions of investment in the UK.'
 
If the PL judge the sponsorship by Etihad Airways as artificially inflated they will be accusing the airline implicitly of an extremely serious financial crime. Are the PL going take on Ethihad Airways in the courts ? Because they would have an excellent case to sue the PL for reputational damage, and that could have very serious financial consequences for the PL
Not really. If a company wants to overpay for a service, the gov don't gaf as long as the chancellor gets his cut.
 
I wonder if certain charges potentially drop 1 by 1 in the meantime whilst lawyers look at and discuss evidence. IE a panel will be the end game but with nothing like what's on the table currently?
That sounds plausible. Perhaps one of our more clued up posters can confirm if this is a possibility?
 
Only way this is sorted sooner is if the club agrees a settlement with the PL

I cant see that happening now though, the club seem confident they can clear their name

would you accept a settlement ? Say a small fine ?
That's the minimum I would say we will get & just like CAS it's enough for these cunts to keep the word cheat stapled on us

That's why I think & hope we totaly clear our name & then stand & deliver more law suits than Donald Trumps $20 wanks
 
Number 1 is a huge one, with HMRC implictions etc if found guilty
Not really HMRC, as by over reporting income, they'd be increasing their tax liability. However, using over reported income to obtain loans or investment would be seriously illigal, so the investment by silver lake and the Chinese consortium would leave SM liable to prison sentences in te USA and China. But then, as part of those companies dues diligence, the CFG accounts would have been analysed with an electron microscope. Now, according to RAWK, SM actually owns silverlake and, like, China, so that's why the investment occurred
 
Can someone explain how the 115 charges can be rounded down to 5? and what they are?

Apologies for being in the dark.....Cheers

They are not rounded down to 5.

They fall broadly into 5 categories a bunch are similar enough to be grouped with others.

Basically the theory is if one of the many in a group can be disproven, then all others can be argued the same.

The flipside is if one group is proven, then that's however many charges sticking.

But it is still 115 or however many charges.
 
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I'm sure once we're cleared with the Premier League charges the piss boiling wankers will find something else to go after us for.
I find it laughable that every other teams fans think out of the whole of the league only us are dodgy and cooking the books.


I'm sure when it gets cleared up there will be a huge, huge can of worms opened up.

Just as a side note, I know absolutely nothing about law, about running a football club or a business but are you telling me that Sheikh Mansour, a politician, a multi billionaire, deputy prime minister of The UAE, with a worldwide reputation, a minister of presidential Court will risk everything, his livelihood, his standing in the world to facilitate and oversee us breaking rules and knowingly allow it?

Do you also think khaldoon will risk his own reputation and then lie to Sheikh Mansour and tell him a completely different story to cover up these alleged issues and accusations?

No, me neither, the more I hear these clowns on TV and radio getting giddy telling us about the charges and knowing what I know about our owners and CEO's, I know who I believe.
Not unless Soriano takes the fall for false reporting…
 
I think it was Mandy Rice Davies who said of Lord Astor denying he’d ever met her, let alone slept with her - “he would say that wouldn’t he….”.

City have a very competent legal team who will have advised the club not to comment beyond anything agreed with them. City will keep things water tight and let this play out but I do think our legal eagles will go big on us being singled out and unfairly targeted. We are clearly confident of our position but that won’t stop us attacking a clearly flawed process. the PL might think they can target us but any rules applied to us MUST be applied to all other clubs equally and that will be the PLs weakness. We could in effect threaten to take everyone else down with us.
I remember Kaldoon saying in one of his end of season interviews something along the lines of the football world is a small one and we hear what goes on, sounds like we have been keeping our powder dry.
 
I remember Kaldoon saying in one of his end of season interviews something along the lines of the football world is a small one and we hear what goes on, sounds like we have been keeping our powder dry.

I’m sure we have a dossier that will form part of our defence that will finger the Red shirts… people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones!
 
If we were guilty of anything you think the charges and punishment would not be handed out before now,
It's all based on fake emails claimed to have come from a hacker and sent to German magazine Der Spiegel

Uefa fell for it hook line and sinker and Manchester City clear our name once and for all, the only punishment was not about the FFP rules but fines for not releasing our accounts on time, again Uefa fell for the fake emails and lies
 
If we were guilty of anything you think the charges and punishment would not be handed out before now,
It's all based on fake emails claimed to have come from a hacker and sent to German magazine Der Spiegel

Uefa fell for it hook line and sinker and Manchester City clear our name once and for all, the only punishment was not about the FFP rules but fines for not releasing our accounts on time, again Uefa fell for the fake emails and lies

They just Wanted the Der Spiegel stuff to be true - that’s why they fell for it.
 
I quite like the ironic comments by some rags that this will all get brushed under the carpet after we make some shady payments into some accounts in the Caymen Islands.
They are absolutely nuts, as are the inhabitants of RAWK. Both are convinced of our guilt, with no consideration of evidence necessary. Both are convinced our players stay because of under the counter payments. Both are convinced our attendance is fake, our sponsors are fake and our finances are fake. What they cannot deny is that our points are not fake, our trophies are not fake, our playing style and tactics are not fake, and our titles are not fake...RESULT.
 

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