PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

POYNTON BLUE LEADER said:
Can Prestwich Blue give us a definitive answer as to the ownership of MCFC? Is it a very rich Sheik or the state of Abu Dhabi.I am fed up of hearing all the pundits, so called journalists and fans of other clubs spouting their bile on the subject.I dont mind either way but it would be good to know the truth on the subject.
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Go into Companies House website, they provide the names if the shareholders
 
the talisman said:
Can’t believe people are so quick to blame City for all this shit.
If you leave a window unlocked and someone comes in and steals stuff you may have been a bit careless but the scumbag that took advantage is a thieving ****.
Some of the biggest companies in the world have been hacked, the fault lies squarely with the hacker. “Self inflicted” …… fuck off
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If a Scouser moves in next door and you.leave your windows open to go to work knowing there is a jobless Scouser living next door all day long then you deserve all you get
 
Son of Merv said:
It isn't about 'blaming City'. Data Protection laws are there to protect the data subjects and ensure any data controller processes data fairly and with adequate security.
If this case did become of interest to the ICO, the first question they would ask is 'how did the Liverpool employees get hold of the password?'. We don't know how they knew, but it would appear to be entirely on City that they did. It doesn't matter what 'Liverpool' did, City allowed it to happen and failed to keep data they hold safe.
Both Liverpool and City reached an agreement that the matter would go no further, no data subjects complained and no action was taken by any authorities. Both sides have a lot to answer for, but everyone agrees it's done with.
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Son of Merv said:
'We' don't know...the parties that matter do. City were the Data Controller and allowed data to be accessed by an outside source. We weren't illegally hacked. We did not maintain proper security of a low level data base and that is on us.

I don't know why people keep bringing it up...deflection?, 'whataboutism'?, gaslighting? a sense of injustice that Liverpool 'get away with stuff'? City took action appropriate to the situation and people need to accept that and move on.
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There have been cases where ex-employees have been sent to prison for accessing data using a current employee's log in details.

Here's one where the ICO used the Computer Misuse Act and it's described as hacking:

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The Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales with over 150,000 members.
www.icaew.com www.icaew.com

While I assume they wouldn't pursue a similar case if it's just 'trade secrets' about who City were tracking (although they might if the data was confidential contact details/personal info which the club used to contact potential targets), it does suggest that it's legally considered as hacking.
 
Centurions said:
"but it would appear to be entirely on City that they did"

That suggests that you think it's on City though without any of us knowing exactly what happened?
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As a data controller, certainly. What we do know is that for a lengthy period, an existing users password was used to access data. Two rules that any data controller should have in place for their users:

1) change your password regularly.
2) dont let anyone else know your password.

We dont know exactly how 2 failed, but any 'data loss' would have been minimised if 1 had been followed.
 
Victim blaming comes to mind…
“If you don’t want people to steal your sensitive data maybe you should change your password more often!”

The only thing city were guilty of is once again being too trusting, even of their own (ex)employees and it’s a mistake that seems to have been repeatedly made during this entire thing. Hopefully we’ve learnt our lesson!
 
I expect another charge of VAR refs on our payroll through some UAE shell company. we need to use the defence of Barcelona, who says they paid the refs to make sure they ref games fairly and not against them. :)
 
Damanino said:
I expect another charge of VAR refs on our payroll through some UAE shell company. we need to use the defence of Barcelona, who says they paid the refs to make sure they ref games fairly and not against them. :)
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Don't laugh but that IndyKalla Twitter page - with nearly 400,000 followers - is claiming exactly that. That one of the officials at the Spurs v Liverpool game was in the UAE a few days earlier so City have bought him off with regards to that Diaz goal not being awarded on Saturday!
 
M18CTID said:
Don't laugh but that IndyKalla Twitter page - with nearly 400,000 followers - is claiming exactly that. That one of the officials at the Spurs v Liverpool game was in the UAE a few days earlier so City have bought him off with regards to that Diaz goal not being awarded on Saturday!
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Is that true? I'm off Twitter now so I only see the original curtailed tweet with no comments and the Times article is behind a paywall. Is this what LiVARpool are waffling on about this morning with leaving no option unexplored? If true I can't laugh about it, if I did I'm not too sure I could stop.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
If a Scouser moves in next door and you.leave your windows open to go to work knowing there is a jobless Scouser living next door all day long then you deserve all you get
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A scouser who lived near me turned up at my house and handed over my wallet with about thirty quid in it and my bank cards. I hadn't even realised I had lost it until he knocked on the door.
 
Centurions said:
Is that true? I'm off Twitter now so I only see the original curtailed tweet with no comments and the Times article is behind a paywall. Is this what LiVARpool are waffling on about this morning with leaving no option unexplored? If true I can't laugh about it, if I did I'm not too sure I could stop.
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There's no suggestion that Liverpool themselves are implying this. It was from an independent Twitter account but one with a lot of followers
 
Rochdale Blue said:
A scouser who lived near me turned up at my house and handed over my wallet with about thirty quid in it and my bank cards. I hadn't even realised I had lost it until he knocked on the door.
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Perhaps he had a change of mind and returned it after pick pocketing you
 
Whatever we paid to fuck Liverpool over in the most funny was possibly was worth every penny. Better value than a back-up for Rodri. I suggest we do the same every transfer window. It's just never going to be a waste of money.
 
Rochdale Blue said:
A scouser who lived near me turned up at my house and handed over my wallet with about thirty quid in it and my bank cards. I hadn't even realised I had lost it until he knocked on the door.
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I would be worried about maybe a bigger scam further down the line: identity theft, with cards copied or cloned? He knows where you live, he might be trying to get an invite to your birthday party, and find your mother's maiden name! ;-)
 
Rochdale Blue said:
He and his wife knew my parents and went out drinking together, they were nice people.
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I'd get them to check their Credit card transactions and change all of their password pronto!
 
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