PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

If not then those people at the club who put us in this position will have to answer for their wrongdoing and what they have done to the club and it’s fans.

Seriously ? You'd have wanted the club to just accept "rules" designed solely to thwart any prospect of competing with the existing top four, throw up their hands and accept the feudal status quo ?

Not for me. IIF they have managed to snare us in their protectionist scheme, I'm proud of every single person that has tried to circumvent the "rules". The bigger sin would have been not to have tried.
 
Instead of trying to help their members, they're moulding their rules to protect the Red Top Mafia from being challenged for Champions League places by City & Chelsea, & from any of the rest from challenging Spuds.

The only way this self-serving stitch-up has been allowed to happen is because of PL self regulation.

This is why the Cartel Clubs fear a truly independent regulator sticking their beaks in & prising off their brutish iron grip on English football, therefore halting the crooked self-serving, authoritarian power they wield over the rest of the Premier League.
This should be posted in big letters on the Etihad wall.
 
Seriously ? You'd have wanted the club to just accept "rules" designed solely to thwart any prospect of competing with the existing top four, throw up their hands and accept the feudal status quo ?

Not for me. IIF they have managed to snare us in their protectionist scheme, I'm proud of every single person that has tried to circumvent the "rules". The bigger sin would have been not to have tried.

More racketeering not protectionist bud.
 
As far as I can recall I have not previously posted on this subject.

Speaking solely for myself I will be glad when the matter is finally resolved one way or another, preferably of course in our favour. I would also prefer it to be sooner rather than later. I appreciate however as a former solicitor that for a variety reasons this may not be possible.

At the moment it is a cloud hanging over the club and everything we are achieving on and off the pitch
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If ultimately we are cleared all well and good. If not then those people at the club who put us in this position will have to answer for their wrongdoing and what they have done to the club and it’s fans.

Their cloud can go fuck itself, couldn't give a toss about it. Neither can seemingly any of the players.
 
I am led to believe we are funded by filthy oil money provided by dirty Arab Muslims. We deserve to be targeted.
They don’t say it, but that’s what so many think.
 
You mean if our club is found to have defrauded to the levels suggested by our accusers, the PL, the media, pundits etc?

Or do you mean if we are found to have over paid mancini for his services? Ie something quite minor with regards to what we're achieving?

I think in the first instance yeah it club need to answer to the fans. But tbf ib think all PL clubs are doing dodgy stuff like the 2nd point I made.
thats what ive been saying for ages, if weve been paying managers / players off the books or as a tax fiddle then it wont be anything that other clubs havnt been doing for a long time, part of the PL delay may be to help the other clubs cover their tracks because surely other clubs should now come under the sort of investigation that we have had to put up with
 
I'd assume so. They've got City's alleged breaches, Everton's appeal, Forest & Everton's 2023/24 cases, the threat of legal action over the related/associated party rules, plus an investigation into Chelsea on the boil.

Instead of trying to help their members, they're moulding their rules to protect the Red Top Mafia from being challenged for Champions League places by City & Chelsea, & from any of the rest from challenging Spuds.

The only way this self-serving stitch-up has been allowed to happen is because of PL self regulation.

This is why the Cartel Clubs fear a truly independent regulator sticking their beaks in & prising off their brutish iron grip on English football, therefore halting the crooked self-serving, authoritarian power they wield over the rest of the Premier League.

The irony is, the spear campaign from the red friends in the media has turned the neutrals completely against City. They are vitriolic towards us, completely overlooking that even if we were stripped of titles the only teams to benefit are Liverpool and United. Us being relegated doesn't suddenly free up the league for the underdogs, because the rules have been engineered to stop that happening. City managed to get in just as the door was being shut on us, but other clubs now don't have that opportunity.
In the interest of a fair league and system, an independent regulator is the best thing that could happen to the Premier League, which is why City are in favour of it and the cartel aren't. That says it all.
 
Maybe so, but we neither know the bigger picture like the club do.
The biggest picture of all is that pretty much everyone in football thinks we are guilty without knowing any of the facts. I totally understand the club itself has to keep quiet but there are ways and means of a third party pulling strings to at least get some control on the narrative.
 
What plans ?
CFG announced some time ago that they planned to raise about USD 900m through an IPO. They did not say what it was for or what shares they were selling. At the same time they announced their plans to borrow a similar amount to fund the redevelopment of a NY block to include a new stadium for NY City. Not sure whether they have updated their website to include this, they are slack in that regard.
UPDATE: Not mentioned on CFG website.
 
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Look the PL are really laying down a marker with Everton and Notts Forest - relatively minor charges compared to us. They both cooperated and plead guilty (Forest with all those player signings in a short time were obviously sailing near the wind). Everton had their minus 10 points penalty (appeal decision to come). We're not giving the PL any advance indications of our likely defence strategy which is the right thing under the circumstances. It worked well with EUFA.
 
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In the interest of a fair league and system, an independent regulator is the best thing that could happen to the Premier League, which is why City are in favour of it and the cartel aren't. That says it all.
Added to the fact the Red Top Mafia & Spuds have never voted against the Premier League to anyone's knowledge, it shows who's truly behind the steering wheel.

What's happening to PL football now is shocking. The saddest part about it is how long it's taken several PL clubs to finally begin to understand what City have been warning against since 2010.

The even sadder part is there's still club owners who must realise this, but who don't care as long as they retain their PL status.

They know they've little chance of ever landing honours, let alone the title, so their model is based solely on PL survival, & stopping an ambitious Championship club with a minted owner getting into the PL & threatening their place near the bottom of the PL trough.

With the Cartel clubs' client media spinning their anti-City narrative, the unwitting football masses who support the also-rans are blissfully unaware of the reality of the situation. As someone pointed out, Reading voted against City & for PL FFP/PSR. Now look where they are? \0/
 
The biggest picture of all is that pretty much everyone in football thinks we are guilty without knowing any of the facts. I totally understand the club itself has to keep quiet but there are ways and means of a third party pulling strings to at least get some control on the narrative.
Exactly - it's like we have to salivate on Khaldoon's vehement denial for a whole 12 months - and a "that's good enough for you" treatment of the fans - yet we're that one's that have to take this relentless diatribe about our guilt every fcking day and turn up and cheer and shout and that's it. That's why rare snippets of resistance from people like Jay and Stefan are so needed - the club is giving us nothing - nobody expects the legal ins and outs, understandably, above all our pay grades - but a bit of "we totally refute the premise of that article" would go a long way.
 
Added to the fact the Red Top Mafia & Spuds have never voted against the Premier League to anyone's knowledge, it shows who's truly behind the steering wheel.

What's happening to PL football now is shocking. The saddest part about it is how long it's taken several PL clubs to finally begin to understand what City have been warning against since 2010.

The even sadder part is there's still club owners who must realise this, but who don't care as long as they retain their PL status.

They know they've little chance of ever landing honours, let alone the title, so their model is based solely on PL survival, & stopping an ambitious Championship club with a minted owner getting into the PL & threatening their place near the bottom of the PL trough.

With the Cartel clubs' client media spinning their anti-City narrative, the unwitting football masses who support the also-rans are blissfully unaware of the reality of the situation. As someone pointed out, Reading voted against City & for PL FFP/PSR. Now look where they are? \0/
Reading obstained didnt they
 
As far as I can recall I have not previously posted on this subject.

Speaking solely for myself I will be glad when the matter is finally resolved one way or another, preferably of course in our favour. I would also prefer it to be sooner rather than later. I appreciate however as a former solicitor that for a variety reasons this may not be possible.

At the moment it is a cloud hanging over the club and everything we are achieving on and off the pitch.

If ultimately we are cleared all well and good. If not then those people at the club who put us in this position will have to answer for their wrongdoing and what they have done to the club and it’s fans.
This cloud you mention is permanent, regardless if we win or lose this case.
The shitstorm and the media sludge that the press have stuck on us will stick as IMHO it's job done.
Jay the city lad hit the nail on the head when he phoned talksport and told them what everyone is feeling.

Fuck the media, fuck the Premier league, fuck the British gutter press.
 
This affair goes on and on and the discussion becomes more and more concerned with how severely City will be punished. The belief is stronger than ever that City are guilty, the case is proven and no-one is denying it. The establishment is conditioning opinion by letting the media spread its propaganda. After all City have already been found guilty once by UEFA and CAS had "to move us on". No-one even raises the question of guilt anymore. But it is still there and it is a massive obstacle to the PL and the cartel. CAS didn't "move us on", what they did on no fewer than eleven occasions, was to point out that there was not one scrap of evidence to support any of the charges UEFA brought. What there was was our accounts, signed off even scrutinised by UEFA accountants, supported by receipts and ssupported by statements under oath from some of the most reputable businessmen in the world. As far as we can tell, the PL charges are similar to those brought by UEFA and so what an impartial media should be asking is what new evidence does the PL have which is at all likely to convince an impartial inquiry. I think it is a question they will find impossible to answer. No waverers, Blues!
 
Exactly - it's like we have to salivate on Khaldoon's vehement denial for a whole 12 months - and a "that's good enough for you" treatment of the fans - yet we're that one's that have to take this relentless diatribe about our guilt every fcking day and turn up and cheer and shout and that's it. That's why rare snippets of resistance from people like Jay and Stefan are so needed - the club is giving us nothing - nobody expects the legal ins and outs, understandably, above all our pay grades - but a bit of "we totally refute the premise of that article" would go a long way.
It worries me that we don't have people doing interviews - it doesn't evn have to be club employees, in fact it probably can't be - talking about the way that other clubs have conspired against us, the fact that these rules were put in place to stop us, the fact that everyone is assuming guilt, the fact that we have been cleared once. Just an alternative narrative. Anyone high profile connected but not employed by the club could do it.

I honestly don't know why there is no Twitter Account set up by a PR company to do a similar job that that guy was doing to jounralists a few years ago. Rabin I think. Messages to counter the lies. That Liverpool fan went fucking viral; with that doctored image of the stadium at the weekend. A lie spreads around the world before the truth has its boots on. The damage is done.Everyone thinks we have a half empty stadium every week. And there is damage: kids are not suporting City because of the barrage of "EMpty Seats/Shit fans/Cheats" they get in the playground.

I've seriously thought about setting one up myself.
 

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