PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Brendan110_0]

And that will fit the narrative perfectly. We didn't cooperate, because we had things to hide so we hid them. Therefore we are corrupt and "we told you so". The media pile-on continues unabated and all of our achievements, successes and reputation are forever tarnished. I could see a 15 to 20-point deduction, reduced to 10 on appeal. Mission accomplished by the red-shirted cartel clubs and the PL.

What level of non co-operation though? Can't supply evidence that doesn't exist, was is a day late, was a United official asking for full data access and denied etc. Looking forward to a completely opaque process where we're hung drawn and quartered, redtop press faux outrage saying we should be liquidated or ten year ban from top division, all titles null and void.

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

That is a story that has circulated. I think it is generally accepted that Mancini couldn't sign with another club for a period post-Inter without losing his pay-off, but I don't think a contract has ever been found between him and AJ before he signed for City. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, of course. On the other hand, it doesn't explain why it would have been continued while he was at City, unless it was to add weight to the validity of the pre-City contract, or that Mancini rather liked getting a sizable portion of his remuneration, presumably, tax-free.

It’s only right and fitting that the Premier League investigate City back over decades for practices that may not have been illegal but certainly weren’t in keeping with the football family ethics.

Arsenal 'in multi-million tax dodge'

The high-profile divorce of Arsenal star Ray Parlour has exposed a multi-million-pound tax dodge at the country's top football club, it was reported last night.

www.independent.co.uk

 

[gocity]

That link doesn't work for me?

Nor me

 

[HaughtonGreenBlue]

Our achievements are only "tarnished" by rival fans. Let them have it. I "tarnish" anything united have won because they simply bought their success by being the richest club, I "tarnish" any success liverpool have achieved by the fact that they should have been disbanded after Heysel, I "tarnish" anything Arsenal have achieved by calling them the most boring bastards English football has ever seen and I "tarnish" Spurs' achievements because....er....they don't exist in living memory.

Oh mate, why can I not 100 times like this post! CTWD

 

[malg]

Our achievements are only "tarnished" by rival fans. Let them have it. I "tarnish" anything united have won because they simply bought their success by being the richest club, I "tarnish" any success liverpool have achieved by the fact that they should have been disbanded after Heysel, I "tarnish" anything Arsenal have achieved by calling them the most boring bastards English football has ever seen and I "tarnish" Spurs' achievements because....er....they don't exist in living memory.

 

[jrb]

Apparently Leicester are facing 2 separate point deductions.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

How did we miss out on " Now thats what I call Music 115"
They're on 118 now

 

[Sir peace frog]

I completely agree - I am starting to get really frustrated at the shit us fans are having to deal with … over a prolonged period of time. And you get very little back from the owners on this … I appreciate their position but sometimes it feels like they could do more to protect the fans.

what do you want them to do ? knit you a thicker skin ?

 

[WRicko]

An amusing anecdote for sure. But can you really imagine the PL has any significant chance on this Mancini issue? I am not even sure why that allegation is in there. I suppose they can only be suggesting the AJ contract was a sham and so they "deem" it to be part of his club salary which then should have been included in his contract with City, as was disclosed to them. Also that it was done deliberately to conceal that part of his salary for some reason which would have to be clear, convincing and appeal to reason moreso than the counter-argument otherwise it is all time-limited anyway. That is all pretty convoluted and a huge stretch, imho, bearing in mind the lack of FFP at the time. Especially considered against the much more simple counter-argument, which will presumably be that it was done for Mancini's personal tax position.

And that is before drawing parallels to Chelsea's related party fixed asset sales. Everyone knows why Chelsea did what they did, to get around PSR rules, but it isn't specifically precluded by the rules so it's OK. There is surely no planet on which they can make the above case in the same year as Chelsea have "got away with it" (to the tune of tens of millions) and ask the IP to punish City for doing something so immaterial that wasn't specifically precluded by the rules at the time?

I have a degree of sympathy with the PL for making the other allegations (Etihad and Etisalat, for example) despite what we know from CAS if the club has chosen not to provide them with external evidence. But this one, I don't get.

The club in Abu Dhabi isn’t even a related party or in CFG I just think he was an over paid genuine consultant for that club. As you and others point out it’s not worth the hassle to hide his salary

 

[Mancity1980]

I understood it that way too. I can’t imagine the Police or HMRC sitting back whilst The Premier League get their shit together for the rule breach hearing before getting involved themselves. If they had any evidence of SERIOUS wrongdoing then surely there’d be pictures of uniformed officers or officials seizing documents or computers.

My guess is we’ll either be found not to have breached any rules or maybe breach of minor rules that have in the past resulted in fines for the likes of the rags of £100k or so.

In the past. The PL are continuously changing rules and punishments. I think you are right though.