It’s all they have. Means nothing. I actually feel sorry for them sometimes. Like robots with no purpose looking for an answer to life. They know it means something but can’t quite remember. Walking into walls beeping 115 115.Christ. I came off social media 18 months ago and it was a superb decision.
Just stumbled upon a fucking YouTube live chat taking place on the Sky Sports account while waiting for the League Cup draw and literally 1 in every 3 comments was ‘115’.
Why do I bother. Honestly best just staying in the Blue bubble and waiting for the exoneration (not that us being cleared would make the slightest difference to the fucking mouth breathers).
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Can’t even get his name rightSnide ****!
Snide fucking ****.Can’t even get his name right
Been sloppy with his uitsmijter maybe?Are sure you didn't have egg on your chin on those occasions?
This is precisely the concern that I have expressed on here beforeI know the KCs appointed by the PL should be wholly independent but, the judges appointed at CAS by a combination of UEFA and City were supposed to be wholly objective and independent but (and this is my concern) the UEFA appointed judge voted in favour of UEFA even in the face of no substantive evidence being produced by UEFA. What’s to stop the same happening at the IP where the PL nominate and retain all the KC’s?
OK, but with respect that only emphasises the need for the question to be answered -if what you say is so absolutely true then how could the CAS judge find against City? - How/why did that happen?*repeats self for the thousandth time* whatever decision the KCs come to they have to give sound legal reasoning to do so and publish that evidence if it is anything one iota below legally binding and iron clad it will be torn to shreds and their credibility and professional career will go down with it, as much as its important to everyone on here it just isnt that important to highly established professionals who have spent their whole life to get to this point, the idea that these KCs can find us guilty because the press and the red tops really really want them to simply cannot happen.
From what I have heard, you’re dealing with an entirely different situation here.OK, but with respect that only emphasises the need for the question to be answered -if what you say is so absolutely true then how could the CAS judge find against City? - How/why did that happen?
and is that is not easily explained - it seems fair that some of us worry that if it's happened once - could it happen again?
OK, but with respect that only emphasises the need for the question to be answered -if what you say is so absolutely true then how could the CAS judge find against City? - How/why did that happen?
and if that is not easily explained - it seems fair that some of us worry that if it's happened once - could it happen again?
The UEFA judge was always going to find against City just like the City Judge was always going to find for City.This is precisely the concern that I have expressed on here before
Despite many excellent posters on here giving lots of good reasons for optimism - including them emphasising the professionalism of KCs means that they will not be blindly biased and risk their reputation - I have not seen an explanation of how/why this happened
The German judge was simply following CAS practice of not voting against his nominator. Mad, but that seems to be the case. Later events, in which a junior in his practice issued a paper ‘proving’ City’s guilt, suggest he actually thought City had broken the rules. But just hang on to “There is no evidence that…etc”, eleven times.OK, but with respect that only emphasises the need for the question to be answered -if what you say is so absolutely true then how could the CAS judge find against City? - How/why did that happen?
and if that is not easily explained - it seems fair that some of us worry that if it's happened once - could it happen again?
They’ve borrowed from a consortium of banks for that.Thought I’d read somewhere it was going to be for the New York stadium build
I appreciate the efforts made by these sources and I found Prestwichblue informative in the past but at this stage I am like a lot of people just anxious to get this matter settled once and for all. Whatever the outcome I'm sure books will be written and maybe even movies made about it all down the line.Have a read of @slbsn and @prestwichblue substack pieces mate.
They break the alleged breaches down, the CAS judgement and City’s likely defence/rebuttal.
The best articles on the subject you’ll find and will help with your questions.
If they have global ambitions, they are forced to fund them somehow, but in the short term it looks a bit suicidal. If this is Silver Lake, they are obviously confident.We just don't know what this cash injection is for. Could be anything; the stadium in New York, our stadium expansion, another acquisition or something else.
The thing that bothers me is that, whereas City generate huge cash flows, the rest of CFG gobbles up cash overall, with no end in sight. Of course the Sheikh can afford it and may even consider it a price worth paying to support some wider objective but it's a shit business proposition in my view.
The credibility of KCs etc rests with the profession, not the press.Will it though? I find it hard to believe there'll be any outrage whatsoever in the event of a bum decision. The MSM and red stooges on Social Media will laud any guilty verdict, irrespective of any sub-standard application of the law
Yes, I can’t remember where I picked that up from but I would not quote it if it had not seemed kosher at the time. Hope I haven’t misled everybody!The only explanation I have ever read, apart from the conspiracy theories that the other judges were biased, corrupt and incompetent (which clearly isn't true, because it would more likely be true the other way), was on here from @KS55 (was it?) that it was traditional for CAS arbitrators to support the view given by the party appointing them. I am not sure if that was serious, but I was going to look through some other CAS judgments to check it out.
Don't forget though, we are dealing with people here. Nothing is guaranteed in any legal case. The club's position is clearly that they have the evidence to counter the PL's position. I think we need to respect that and trust the process.
Khoolhand playing himself?I appreciate the efforts made by these sources and I found Prestwichblue informative in the past but at this stage I am like a lot of people just anxious to get this matter settled once and for all. Whatever the outcome I'm sure books will be written and maybe even movies made about it all down the line.