PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

asahartford1 said:
If he's heard City aren't confident isn't that knowledge.
So when you say "not knowledge" it is confusing.
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asahartford1 said:
If Jordan has heard that City are not confident, then he has heard it from someone. He must believe that the information he has heard has credibility, because he has aired it on a National radio station.
If he has not made it up then he has the "knowledge" of what that person has told him
Personally I don't believe a word Jordan says. He believes and wants other people to believe he is intelligent and in the "know"
I have listened to his bull over many years, many times he is completely wrong, has to backtrap or deny he has actually said something that is totally erroneous.
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Stefan didn't say that. He said they weren't as confident as City made out. As City were almost totally dismissive (completely cocky) that's not much of a stretch - I'll settle for 90% confidence or nearly certain as opposed to absolutely certain which in reality nobody could be in this situation !
 
Damocles said:
I think the biggest thing that nobody seems to mention is that his Al Jazira work predates his time at City. He was working as a consultant for them even when he was Inter manager.
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The complication is that his contract with Mansour was put together by City /CFG execs.
 
KS55 said:
The complication is that his contract with Mansour was put together by City /CFG execs.
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Surely it wouldn't be unusual for one part of a Group to use the greater expertise of another
 
slbsn said:
He (and the information) may be wrong. But he isn't lying (IMO).
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You are up and close to him so I am sure you get a much better tell on Jordan than I ever could.
I have too much time on my hands and listen more than I should to Talksport nearly ALL the reporters begin with the soundbite, "I have heard" never adding from who, when or where they heard it.
I don't believe any of it. Who from City would slip Jordan information?
If City escape any meaningful PL sanctions Jordan will say it is as he thought guilty but City were never going to receive retribution, but they are still guilty.
After the CAS decision he still preached that City were guilty.
 
Damocles said:
Spinning things to a dramatic context IS his job though. He's an entertainer, not an analyst. Stefan is the analyst. Jordan is the full timer who is there to generate revenue

I find it hard to get annoyed at TalkSport presenters because they don't make any claims to be anything but what they are.
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I'm afraid this is true. I don't blame anyone on Talksport for saying what they say, I rather blame the people who listen to/watch it and then bring the bullshit on here as if it has any weight.
 
I don't see the problem with a business owner using the expertise of one business he owns to facilitate a deal with another project he's the chairman of. It sounds like an administrative task that was passed on('can you write me up a contract for this when you get time'). If they are suggesting this 'proves' the deal was a sham or that this somehow proves City are state owned(since the state do own Al Jazira Club), then that is another logical fallacy('anecdotal fallacy'?).

Unless of course, there are some regulations(UEFA, PL) we are not aware of, which would prevent this(which I doubt).
 
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petrusha said:
I suspect he's putting forward his own opinion of how confident City ought to be based on what he's heard about the hearing based on the views of someone on the other side. But even if that's wrong, it's generated a ludicrous amount of discussion on this thread.

As @halfcenturyup said, there's a lot of high-quality analysis in this thread that you wont' find replicated elsewhere. At the same time, though, there's also a welter of absolute shite on here.
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If it’s come from the premier league then he should question it for the fact they thought they won the APT case..
 
Damocles said:
I think the biggest thing that nobody seems to mention is that his Al Jazira work predates his time at City. He was working as a consultant for them even when he was Inter manager.
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I seem to remember that he had a consulting contract with AJ while the issue of his termination payment was being settled. He couldn't accept a new manager position until that was concluded and so Mansour kept him "warm" with a consultancy. After his termination was settled by the courts, he joined City pretty quickly, but kept his consulting contract..who wouldn't? :)

Can't find anything to support that, though, other than a Guardian article which mentioned Mancini and Khaldoon already knew each other (how would they otherwise?). I suppose no-one wanted it plastered over the press, though, especially after the attempted hatchet job on Mancini when he started.
 
cheekybids said:
If it’s come from the premier league then he should question it for the fact they thought they won the APT case..
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Point understood @cheekybids but I think the PL clearly understood the results of the APT case but in their usual attempt to confuse the narrative, preferred to put out their version of " having won the case " for the benefit of the hard of understanding who want to promote and believe their claims.
 
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