Player Thread: Patrick Roberts

Agreed. Much better than Sunderland.

Sunderland is EPL at least, also big sam might be a clogger type, but is the right manager to get him playing for the team first and foremost.

I'd say sunderland would benefit him most.
 
Sunderland is EPL at least, also big sam might be a clogger type, but is the right manager to get him playing for the team first and foremost.

I'd say sunderland would benefit him most.

I just don't see any reason why he'd play him. On loan kid in a relegation scrap? Be benched after one game.
 
I just don't see any reason why he'd play him. On loan kid in a relegation scrap? Be benched after one game.

Perhaps...although he'd get more chances than at city. Better to have half the games at Prem league standard than twice the amount at championship level.

Maybe make an agreement on minimum amount of appearances/minutes when he goes anywhere.
 
I think he's the sort of player who's going to be hard to loan out to english sides in general. When the going gets tough, the tiny luxury players who don't track back tend to be the first to get dropped.
 
Perhaps...although he'd get more chances than at city. Better to have half the games at Prem league standard than twice the amount at championship level.

Maybe make an agreement on minimum amount of appearances/minutes when he goes anywhere.
No club is going to agree a minimum playing time for a young player when so much cash depends on where they finish. And Fulham who actually owned him barely played him in the latter half of the season when there: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-roberts/leistungsdaten/spieler/225452/plus/0?saison=2014. He only appeared in 17 league matches, averaging just 20 minutes per game.
 
I think he's the sort of player who's going to be hard to loan out to english sides in general. When the going gets tough, the tiny luxury players who don't track back tend to be the first to get dropped.

I don't think he is the type of player that can develop to his full potential in England.

He needs a loan to a side in The Netherlands or Spain where it is less physical and there is an emphasis more on development and scouting because of lack of funds which will hopefully lead to over-achievement rather than just primarily results.
 
He needs to be played and believed in and then played again. He doesn't deserve a first team place based on his form in the last month or so ( added to his injuries) btu he should get every EDS game going to show his talent and then brought back into thefirst team squad as his form returns with a view to getting him involved.
 
Surely it's also the fact that if he's at another club he's not training in our brand new, state of the art training facilities with our world class staff therefore he's not reaping the benefits of working directly with everything we've put in place in order to make our youngsters make the transition from wonderkids to the finished article.

I don't think loans are always the answer and although I agree he should have had more game time this year - first team or EDS, either would do - I don't think a loan would necessarily be the best option right now. I think he will have gained a lot this year from training with the likes of David Silva and Sergio Aguero who truly are world class players and have adapted their talents from being hyped-up youngsters to succeeding in the Premier League, so they've gone through the process that Patrick needs to in the next 5 years and he'll be learning first hand how to replicate that.
 
Not sure what message it sends to the lad when we are looking likely to spend £30 million on Sane who is the same age and same position.

Needs first team football asap
 

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