Player thread: Samir Nasri (2014/15)

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BlueAnorak said:
Chippy_boy said:
Most frustrating of players for me, and personally I don't think he had a great game. One of his strongest qualities normally is his ability to retain possession and in the first half he gave it away repeatedly.

The thing that drives me bonkers about him is his constant slowing down of play, especially when we are in threatening positions, he seems to favour pirouetting and passing backwards instead of the penetrating forward pass. And he takes too bloody long over it as well. The tippy tappy 5 yard passes "to you Yaya", "no back to you Samir", "no you have it Yaya" bollocks does my head in at times.

That said, he was instrumental in the first 2 goals. I just wish he was a bit more direct and less farting about. We would have scored a 4th or 5th goal I reckon has he not fannied about so much towards the end.

I think overall he's a really good player and I do value him. I just think he could be a sensational player if he was more direct.

Agreed two good passes does not a great player make.
They don't but Nasri consistently makes key passes that lead to goals.

His part in Jovetic's 2nd goal was key.

I hope he carries on doing that.

I take the point that in his general play he can do more, but it's a bit unbalanced to ignore a key moment in the games and also ignore the fact that Nasri along with Silva create a huge number of chances for our forwards
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Most frustrating of players for me, and personally I don't think he had a great game. One of his strongest qualities normally is his ability to retain possession and in the first half he gave it away repeatedly.

In the first half, Nasri's passing accuracy was 89%, Jovetic's was 92%, and Silva's was 75%.
 
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There were at least 3 incidents in the second half where he lost the ball and made absolutely no effort to try and win it back. He could be a great, but for me he's far too inconsistent and becomes far too complacent.
 
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Nasri is clearly a very talented player.

But I think when we come up against the really fast and strong midfield players e.g. Chelsea, away from home then one of Nasri, Silva and Yaya has to go. I think that Nasri will be the odd man out with both Fernando and Fernandinho in the team.
 
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What a strange player.

Seems to feel his way in to games and decide what level he wants to turn on.

Purrs like an F1 car engine when it heats up, but similarly, can be temperamental, if anything is even slightly off with the tyres.

Wonderful ball retention and passing in close quarters, I hope to see the Sammy who was at his arrogant best before the hack job at Newcastle last season.
 
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Covered the most ground of any player on either side last night.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2734134/Manchester-City-3-1-Liverpool-Stevan-Jovetic-double-Reds-new-signing-Mario-Balotelli-looks-stands.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... tands.html</a>
 
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Train said:
Chippy_boy said:
Most frustrating of players for me, and personally I don't think he had a great game. One of his strongest qualities normally is his ability to retain possession and in the first half he gave it away repeatedly.

In the first half, Nasri's passing accuracy was 89%, Jovetic's was 92%, and Silva's was 75%.

Silva had a stinker by his standards, 1st half. And passing it 3 yards sideways to Yaya 15 times tends to boost Nasri's averages a bit. He gave the ball away quite a bit and did very little with it first half. And not much 2nd half, come to think of it.

I do not wish to single him out however. I said he was "frustrating" not "shit".
 
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Just a thought with our game based on possession do you not think he might be under instruction to slow the game down, as do Silva Navas Toure et al
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Train said:
Chippy_boy said:
Most frustrating of players for me, and personally I don't think he had a great game. One of his strongest qualities normally is his ability to retain possession and in the first half he gave it away repeatedly.

In the first half, Nasri's passing accuracy was 89%, Jovetic's was 92%, and Silva's was 75%.

Silva had a stinker by his standards, 1st half. And passing it 3 yards sideways to Yaya 15 times tends to boost Nasri's averages a bit. He gave the ball away quite a bit and did very little with it first half. And not much 2nd half, come to think of it.

I do not wish to single him out however. I said he was "frustrating" not "shit".
Frustration is entirely the point. He's been instructed along with all the others to frustrate the opposition and over the course of the game to drag them out of position so we get those moments like the first two goals. Then when the opposition switches up to pushing high up the pitch, we go more direct.
 
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grim up north said:
Just a thought with our game based on possession do you not think he might be under instruction to slow the game down, as do Silva Navas Toure et al

Well if there are any such instructions (which I doubt), he clearly isn't understanding them properly because you wouldn't instruct someone to slow the game down when there's a really good goalscoring opportunity opening up, would you.
 
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Chippy_boy said:
grim up north said:
Just a thought with our game based on possession do you not think he might be under instruction to slow the game down, as do Silva Navas Toure et al

Well if there are any such instructions (which I doubt), he clearly isn't understanding them properly because you wouldn't instruct someone to slow the game down when there's a really good goalscoring opportunity opening up, would you.

If you say so but no more guilty than others
 
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For gods sake let us not start slagging Nasri off - 2nd game of the season - he does a great job for the team - mostly. If he was shit then Pellers wouldn't pick him.
 
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Bluep*ss said:
For gods sake let us not start slagging Nasri off - 2nd game of the season - he does a great job for the team - mostly. If he was shit then Pellers wouldn't pick him.

Who said he was shit? And no-one is slagging him off.
 
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Fantastic skill and excellent vision .I think sometimes rest of his team mates (besides Silva and Yaya) are not in his wave length .Yesterday, 3 or 4 times he was available and screaming for ball inside the box.If he had received the ball he would've atleast scored a goal.
His pass to Silva which led to 1st goal shows his quality.The placement ,accuracy ,and the vision was exceptional.
Top top class .
 
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chicagoblues said:
Fantastic skill and excellent vision .I think sometimes rest of his team mates (besides Silva and Yaya) are not in his wave length .Yesterday, 3 or 4 times he was available and screaming for ball inside the box.If he had received the ball he would've atleast scored a goal.
His pass to Silva which led to 1st goal shows his quality.The placement ,accuracy ,and the vision was exceptional.
Top top class .
He and Jovetic seem to have a good understanding too as does Kolarov. I think it he continues to play on the right side, he and Zabaleta will easily come to a good partnership.
 
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taconinja said:
chicagoblues said:
Fantastic skill and excellent vision .I think sometimes rest of his team mates (besides Silva and Yaya) are not in his wave length .Yesterday, 3 or 4 times he was available and screaming for ball inside the box.If he had received the ball he would've atleast scored a goal.
His pass to Silva which led to 1st goal shows his quality.The placement ,accuracy ,and the vision was exceptional.
Top top class .
He and Jovetic seem to have a good understanding too as does Kolarov. I think it he continues to play on the right side, he and Zabaleta will easily come to a good partnership.

Thought he had his usual ups and downs during the first half, but when he turned it on for that 5 minute period at the end of the first half he was scintillating. The second half was much better from the team as a whole except when they fell asleep and almost let the Dippers in a second time.
 
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I love some of the comments on here and to be fair the odd few in the East Stand last night screaming at Nasri to "get the fucking thing forward", anyone would think we were back in the 80/90's.

We play possession football. It's not aimless possession, it's possession to bring players into areas where we can be dangerous. Last night being the perfect example with both of Jovetic's goals - Nasri, Silva and Jovetic all got themselves into positions close together to outnumber Liverpool down the right hand side of the pitch and it worked. By playing with speed you lose the accuracy of passing and control. Those three aren't the fastest or strongest in attacking areas but they are the most intelligent and that's how we win games.
 
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Uwe Rosler said:
There were at least 3 incidents in the second half where he lost the ball and made absolutely no effort to try and win it back. He could be a great, but for me he's far too inconsistent and becomes far too complacent.

I've called him for slowing us down . His ball retention is amazing but could create so much more with his skill. He does amble back when attacks break down and when he and Yaya are strolling back we are opened up. Fernando has been amazing at plugging those holes but against the very best opponents we would have got taken apart at times.
 
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fatbloke said:
I love some of the comments on here and to be fair the odd few in the East Stand last night screaming at Nasri to "get the fucking thing forward", anyone would think we were back in the 80/90's.

We play possession football. It's not aimless possession, it's possession to bring players into areas where we can be dangerous. Last night being the perfect example with both of Jovetic's goals - Nasri, Silva and Jovetic all got themselves into positions close together to outnumber Liverpool down the right hand side of the pitch and it worked. By playing with speed you lose the accuracy of passing and control. Those three aren't the fastest or strongest in attacking areas but they are the most intelligent and that's how we win games.

Had to chuckle last night Dzeko won possession near to Liverpool's corner flag passed the ball back to Clichy I think it was and all people round us wanted him to do was cross into the box with 4 Liverpool defenders and not one City player anywhere near the box
 
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