Re: Mangala
Mangala had pretty steady game yesterday, I don't think he's come across the physical side of the game like Zamora gave him yesterday. Zamora even proved to be a handful for DeMichelis too yesterday and would have even given Kompany some problems playing like he did if Vinny had been fit.
I don't think Nastasic is any worse than Mangala personally. I wish our coach would work with both of them and Rekik and Denayer because all four are going to be top centre backs and we're lucky to have them all on our books. The problem is Nastasic has been frozen out and Mangala has some fans on his back after he's been here two minutes because of his transfer fee and the long protracted transfer negotiations. Both players are being treated badly by the club and the fans for different reasons. If we had a decent defensive coach, someone who has played in Europe but knows how the Premier League has changed then we can save the careers of both of these players. The way both are being treated at the moment makes me think that both will be become better players at other clubs. Typical City is having talented players and then selling them on the cheap to fulfil their potential elsewhere. Seems some on here would be happier with Smalling and Jones than Nastasic and Mangala.
It's time the club got the best from these investments and started training and playing them. Martin DeMichelis has adapted his game. He's played at some of the best clubs in Europe and internationally plays for a strong Argentinian side. Maybe get him to be a player/coach for the defensive side of things or bring someone in who can do this role and stop us getting rid of players when we become impatient with their development. Boateng left for a variety of reasons, Savic the same. They both got one season with us but both are progressing well with their careers with decent clubs.
Mangala and Nastasic are both strong, good on the ball defenders. It's the drop in concentraton from both which stops them being complete defenders. They sometimes loose the man they should be marking but usually because they are/were getting pulled out of position by covering for a wing back who was attacking up the pitch when we lost possession. This isn't solely the job of the centre back to cover.
On another note Vinny was played in midfield when we signed him and he didn't shine in that role. It was only when he was eventually played at centre back and DeJong played in front of him that Vinny became one of our better players.
Mangala had pretty steady game yesterday, I don't think he's come across the physical side of the game like Zamora gave him yesterday. Zamora even proved to be a handful for DeMichelis too yesterday and would have even given Kompany some problems playing like he did if Vinny had been fit.
I don't think Nastasic is any worse than Mangala personally. I wish our coach would work with both of them and Rekik and Denayer because all four are going to be top centre backs and we're lucky to have them all on our books. The problem is Nastasic has been frozen out and Mangala has some fans on his back after he's been here two minutes because of his transfer fee and the long protracted transfer negotiations. Both players are being treated badly by the club and the fans for different reasons. If we had a decent defensive coach, someone who has played in Europe but knows how the Premier League has changed then we can save the careers of both of these players. The way both are being treated at the moment makes me think that both will be become better players at other clubs. Typical City is having talented players and then selling them on the cheap to fulfil their potential elsewhere. Seems some on here would be happier with Smalling and Jones than Nastasic and Mangala.
It's time the club got the best from these investments and started training and playing them. Martin DeMichelis has adapted his game. He's played at some of the best clubs in Europe and internationally plays for a strong Argentinian side. Maybe get him to be a player/coach for the defensive side of things or bring someone in who can do this role and stop us getting rid of players when we become impatient with their development. Boateng left for a variety of reasons, Savic the same. They both got one season with us but both are progressing well with their careers with decent clubs.
Mangala and Nastasic are both strong, good on the ball defenders. It's the drop in concentraton from both which stops them being complete defenders. They sometimes loose the man they should be marking but usually because they are/were getting pulled out of position by covering for a wing back who was attacking up the pitch when we lost possession. This isn't solely the job of the centre back to cover.
On another note Vinny was played in midfield when we signed him and he didn't shine in that role. It was only when he was eventually played at centre back and DeJong played in front of him that Vinny became one of our better players.