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Player topic: Eliaquim Mangala (2014/15)
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City_Sean
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Re: Mangala signs!
Explain how hes "Finished", because from where I watched the game last night he was a rock, he handled the threat of Lewandowski fantastically, he played the ball out well and was imperious alongside Kompany.
RandomJ said:pikku said:Thought he was poor against bayern,tbf the whole team was except for a few,still feel it is a gamble which will pay off having mangala start on sunday.Need some pace and strength in the back four as chelsea are deadly on the counter.SuperMario's Fireworks. said:Because MDM doesn't deserve to be dropped. Mangala will play v Wednesday.
I agree. I've been really impressed with Demi this season and he certainly didn't deserve to be dropped the way he was playing in the league but I think he is finished at CL level.
Explain how hes "Finished", because from where I watched the game last night he was a rock, he handled the threat of Lewandowski fantastically, he played the ball out well and was imperious alongside Kompany.
Shaelumstash
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Re: Mangala signs!
DeMichelis was excellent last season. Lescott and Nastasic were less so than in previous years because their game is not suited to high line, pressing football. Too often their lack of pace / strength was exposed in Pellegrini's system, particularly on the counter attack.
I believe the number one reason we bought Mangala, and spent nearly all of our summer budget on him, was because his speed and strength would leave us less vulnerable to the counter attack.
If I was to pick one game in a season where we are likely to have to face a strong threat from a counter attack, it would be Chelsea at home. This game could define the season.
DeMichelis has been excellent again so far, but if Mangala could play only one game for us this season, I'd pick him to play against Chelsea at home. His pace leaves us less vulnerable to the counter, and his physicality is capable of nullifying Costa, who is their main goal threat.
I appreciate as others have said, it is far from ideal, he has had no game time with the other defenders, played no minutes in the league. It would have been perfect if he'd been slowly introduced and was fully up to speed in time for the Chelsea home game.
Unfortunately we are where we are, and personally I think it's a risk worth taking to start him on Sunday.
ianw16 said:Shaelumstash said:I expect him to start on Sunday. I think it's the right move by Pellegrini. His pace, physicality and strength is ideal to play against Costa. Imagine Costa trying to bully Vinny and Mangala? No chance.
I'm not being dramatic, flapping, or knee jerking, but I think the game on Sunday might well decide the title. If they win they go 8 points clear, and I can't see a Mourinho side letting that slip. If we win it puts up two points behind them after a much trickier start which could give us the momentum.
When Van Persie scored that free kick against us in the 2012/13 season I thought it was pivotal, and so it proved, Sunday has a similar feel about it. Fingers crossed, Mangala could be the difference maker for us.
I very much doubt he will start him against Chelsea. Probably against Sheff. Wed. in the cup.
DeMichelis was excellent last season. Lescott and Nastasic were less so than in previous years because their game is not suited to high line, pressing football. Too often their lack of pace / strength was exposed in Pellegrini's system, particularly on the counter attack.
I believe the number one reason we bought Mangala, and spent nearly all of our summer budget on him, was because his speed and strength would leave us less vulnerable to the counter attack.
If I was to pick one game in a season where we are likely to have to face a strong threat from a counter attack, it would be Chelsea at home. This game could define the season.
DeMichelis has been excellent again so far, but if Mangala could play only one game for us this season, I'd pick him to play against Chelsea at home. His pace leaves us less vulnerable to the counter, and his physicality is capable of nullifying Costa, who is their main goal threat.
I appreciate as others have said, it is far from ideal, he has had no game time with the other defenders, played no minutes in the league. It would have been perfect if he'd been slowly introduced and was fully up to speed in time for the Chelsea home game.
Unfortunately we are where we are, and personally I think it's a risk worth taking to start him on Sunday.
mosssideblue
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Re: Mangala signs!
Absolutely agree with all of that. At times he looks more assured than Vinnie. I also would wager that Vinnie is learning from the old dog.
SuperMario's Fireworks. said:RandomJ said:pikku said:Thought he was poor against bayern,tbf the whole team was except for a few,still feel it is a gamble which will pay off having mangala start on sunday.Need some pace and strength in the back four as chelsea are deadly on the counter.
I agree. I've been really impressed with Demi this season and he certainly didn't deserve to be dropped the way he was playing in the league but I think he is finished at CL level.
Explain how hes "Finished", because from where I watched the game last night he was a rock, he handled the threat of Lewandowski fantastically, he played the ball out well and was imperious alongside Kompany.
Absolutely agree with all of that. At times he looks more assured than Vinnie. I also would wager that Vinnie is learning from the old dog.
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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Re: Mangala signs!
Also agree and Pellegrini picks players by form not names or amount paid for a player.
Mangala will get his chance just don't think it will be yet as it goes against Pellegrini outlook
mosssideblue said:SuperMario's Fireworks. said:RandomJ said:I agree. I've been really impressed with Demi this season and he certainly didn't deserve to be dropped the way he was playing in the league but I think he is finished at CL level.
Explain how hes "Finished", because from where I watched the game last night he was a rock, he handled the threat of Lewandowski fantastically, he played the ball out well and was imperious alongside Kompany.
Absolutely agree with all of that. At times he looks more assured than Vinnie. I also would wager that Vinnie is learning from the old dog.
Also agree and Pellegrini picks players by form not names or amount paid for a player.
Mangala will get his chance just don't think it will be yet as it goes against Pellegrini outlook
sam-caddick
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I still think Demichelis will start but like you said, at his age can Demichelis play three games in a week, three games against Arsenal away, Bayern away and then Chelsea at home?
CityFan94 said:Will he start on Sunday now?
Surely not, but can Demichelis play 3 big games in a week at 33 years old?
Nothing wrong with Demichelis' performances, it's just 3 games in a week would be a lot to ask at his age.
I still think Demichelis will start but like you said, at his age can Demichelis play three games in a week, three games against Arsenal away, Bayern away and then Chelsea at home?
Re: Mangala signs!
I agree with all of this 100%. I think the reason Mangala was preferred to Benatia and some other options is that Mangala should in theory be a better partner to Vinny, who will be freed to do more of his style of aggressive defending while Mangala is instructed to essentially act as a sweeper, covering when required and using his strength to nip things in the bud. I probably would have played him against Bayern for nearly the same reason, but I think he's a must start against Chelsea even if it isn't ideal for him to play without first forming a partnership.
Shaelumstash said:ianw16 said:Shaelumstash said:I expect him to start on Sunday. I think it's the right move by Pellegrini. His pace, physicality and strength is ideal to play against Costa. Imagine Costa trying to bully Vinny and Mangala? No chance.
I'm not being dramatic, flapping, or knee jerking, but I think the game on Sunday might well decide the title. If they win they go 8 points clear, and I can't see a Mourinho side letting that slip. If we win it puts up two points behind them after a much trickier start which could give us the momentum.
When Van Persie scored that free kick against us in the 2012/13 season I thought it was pivotal, and so it proved, Sunday has a similar feel about it. Fingers crossed, Mangala could be the difference maker for us.
I very much doubt he will start him against Chelsea. Probably against Sheff. Wed. in the cup.
DeMichelis was excellent last season. Lescott and Nastasic were less so than in previous years because their game is not suited to high line, pressing football. Too often their lack of pace / strength was exposed in Pellegrini's system, particularly on the counter attack.
I believe the number one reason we bought Mangala, and spent nearly all of our summer budget on him, was because his speed and strength would leave us less vulnerable to the counter attack.
If I was to pick one game in a season where we are likely to have to face a strong threat from a counter attack, it would be Chelsea at home. This game could define the season.
DeMichelis has been excellent again so far, but if Mangala could play only one game for us this season, I'd pick him to play against Chelsea at home. His pace leaves us less vulnerable to the counter, and his physicality is capable of nullifying Costa, who is their main goal threat.
I appreciate as others have said, it is far from ideal, he has had no game time with the other defenders, played no minutes in the league. It would have been perfect if he'd been slowly introduced and was fully up to speed in time for the Chelsea home game.
Unfortunately we are where we are, and personally I think it's a risk worth taking to start him on Sunday.
I agree with all of this 100%. I think the reason Mangala was preferred to Benatia and some other options is that Mangala should in theory be a better partner to Vinny, who will be freed to do more of his style of aggressive defending while Mangala is instructed to essentially act as a sweeper, covering when required and using his strength to nip things in the bud. I probably would have played him against Bayern for nearly the same reason, but I think he's a must start against Chelsea even if it isn't ideal for him to play without first forming a partnership.
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Re: Mangala
You don't pay £32m for him not to play so there is a reason why he isn't playing yet. Whatever it is, it needs sorting and he needs to get in the side otherwise it begs the question, could the money have been better spent elsewhere?
You don't pay £32m for him not to play so there is a reason why he isn't playing yet. Whatever it is, it needs sorting and he needs to get in the side otherwise it begs the question, could the money have been better spent elsewhere?
citytill1die84
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No it's not baffling he'll play against Sheff Wed. Martin doesn't deserve to be dropped anyway so what's the rush? He'll get his chance when it comes at the moment I'm not worried.
bluegoal said:Pellers has handled this all wrong IMO why not blood him in against Stoke?
Now does he risk an untested against the strongest team in the prem at the moment on sunday which is a must win game...
Baffling...
No it's not baffling he'll play against Sheff Wed. Martin doesn't deserve to be dropped anyway so what's the rush? He'll get his chance when it comes at the moment I'm not worried.
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