Player topic: Sergio Aguero (2014/15)

[CAPTAINKIPPAX]

Re: Sergio Aguero

A month out is way beyond my wildest dreams i'll be delighted if that's the extent of the damage we're very lucky if the rumours are right still waiting for serge to break silence on twitter before I jump for joy though. Time for Edin to step up over the busy xmas schedule and prove a lot of doubters wrong a fit and firing Dzeko is just what the club needs right now.

 

[moh]

Re: Sergio Aguero

If you re watch the injury when the physio and doc came on the first thing they did was test his Cruciate ligaments with the anterior and posterior drawer test.

This has a fixed end point and there didnt appear to be any laxity. There is no way he would have been permitted to walk. They then did a quick McMurrays to rule out a meniscus injury - given the fact that sergio could also fully extend his knee and stand further rules this out.

I'm thinking medial collateral ligament.

We will soon see I guess.

Agreed but at what point did they do the Hokey Kokey test?

Critical with the xmas party season almost upon us imo.

I think they did but if you watch the video closely he struggles with the "Rah Rah Rah" bit

he's OK with the knees bend and the arms stretch.....good news!

 

[fairhurst1]

Re: Sergio Aguero

Nope
I do this for a living.

Yeah. Me too. How often have you seen a postero lateral corner injury?

With a complete lateral collateral rupture (which they usually are as you well know) most of the time. They are usually missed by junior docs in casualty in my experience and require delayed reconstruction.

So you will know that isolated LCL rupture is unusual and associated with ACL and PCL tear....which is my fear.
To try and pick an isolated LCL clinically is difficult for Orthopaedic Consultants, so to expect a junior doc to do so is expecting a lot. As you know a knee can appear stable immediately after an injury due to swelling rendering the anterior draw test, Lachmanns and pivot shift test useless. We won't know for sure until he has had an MRI and anything prior to this is pure conjecture.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

Re: Sergio Aguero

Yeah. Me too. How often have you seen a postero lateral corner injury?

With a complete lateral collateral rupture (which they usually are as you well know) most of the time. They are usually missed by junior docs in casualty in my experience and require delayed reconstruction.

So you will know that isolated LCL rupture is unusual and associated with ACL and PCL tear....which is my fear.
To try and pick an isolated LCL clinically is difficult for Orthopaedic Consultants, so to expect a junior doc to do so is expecting a lot. As you know a knee can appear stable immediately after an injury due to swelling rendering the anterior draw test, Lachmanns and pivot shift test useless. We won't know for sure until he has had an MRI and anything prior to this is pure conjecture.

Which flies in the face of you chatting shit for the past few pages

 

[moon]

Re: Sergio Aguero

Agree need Dzeko to re capture his form from the end of last season

 

[domalino]

Re: Sergio Aguero

A month out is way beyond my wildest dreams i'll be delighted if that's the extent of the damage we're very lucky if the rumours are right still waiting for serge to break silence on twitter before I jump for joy though. Time for Edin to step up over the busy xmas schedule and prove a lot of doubters wrong a fit and firing Dzeko is just what the club needs right now.

Especially considering our Christmas fixtures in the league, it would be a massive break to lose him for only 4-6weeks.

You would hope Dzeko could do the job agaisnt Leicester, Burnley, West Brom and Palace especially given they are all in bad form themselves.

 

[tonea2003]

Re: Sergio Aguero

Yeah. Me too. How often have you seen a postero lateral corner injury?

With a complete lateral collateral rupture (which they usually are as you well know) most of the time. They are usually missed by junior docs in casualty in my experience and require delayed reconstruction.

So you will know that isolated LCL rupture is unusual and associated with ACL and PCL tear....which is my fear.
To try and pick an isolated LCL clinically is difficult for Orthopaedic Consultants, so to expect a junior doc to do so is expecting a lot. As you know a knee can appear stable immediately after an injury due to swelling rendering the anterior draw test, Lachmanns and pivot shift test useless. We won't know for sure until he has had an MRI and anything prior to this is pure conjecture.

hence the negativity you have been getting with your immediate diagnosis

 

[Burtonblue]

Re: Sergio Aguero

Yeah. Me too. How often have you seen a postero lateral corner injury?

With a complete lateral collateral rupture (which they usually are as you well know) most of the time. They are usually missed by junior docs in casualty in my experience and require delayed reconstruction.

So you will know that isolated LCL rupture is unusual and associated with ACL and PCL tear....which is my fear.
To try and pick an isolated LCL clinically is difficult for Orthopaedic Consultants, so to expect a junior doc to do so is expecting a lot. As you know a knee can appear stable immediately after an injury due to swelling rendering the anterior draw test, Lachmanns and pivot shift test useless. We won't know for sure until he has had an MRI and anything prior to this is pure conjecture.

Conjecture indeed!
No way was that the correct mechanism of injury for an LCL injury anyway.
Still maintain he would not have walked off the pitch with a major ligament injury. Physio would not have allowed it.

Fingers and all else crossed.

 

[xenon_]

Re: Sergio Aguero

Yeah. Me too. How often have you seen a postero lateral corner injury?

With a complete lateral collateral rupture (which they usually are as you well know) most of the time. They are usually missed by junior docs in casualty in my experience and require delayed reconstruction.

So you will know that isolated LCL rupture is unusual and associated with ACL and PCL tear....which is my fear.
To try and pick an isolated LCL clinically is difficult for Orthopaedic Consultants, so to expect a junior doc to do so is expecting a lot. As you know a knee can appear stable immediately after an injury due to swelling rendering the anterior draw test, Lachmanns and pivot shift test useless. We won't know for sure until he has had an MRI and anything prior to this is pure conjecture.

"So you'll know..."

Haha I bet at least one of these fuckers is googling furiously right now.

Me... I'm just hoping kun's back before end of Jan. That'll do me. Our squad should be able to manage without him for a little while now that we're playing like ourselves again. We've done it before

 

[fairhurst1]

Re: Sergio Aguero

With a complete lateral collateral rupture (which they usually are as you well know) most of the time. They are usually missed by junior docs in casualty in my experience and require delayed reconstruction.

So you will know that isolated LCL rupture is unusual and associated with ACL and PCL tear....which is my fear.
To try and pick an isolated LCL clinically is difficult for Orthopaedic Consultants, so to expect a junior doc to do so is expecting a lot. As you know a knee can appear stable immediately after an injury due to swelling rendering the anterior draw test, Lachmanns and pivot shift test useless. We won't know for sure until he has had an MRI and anything prior to this is pure conjecture.

hence the negativity you have been getting with your immediate diagnosis

No. Everybody has reassured themselves that it is best case scenario, 4 weeks, move on. What I'm saying is that we need to temper our optimism. I'm not so sure. We will find out fairly soon I hope. Just trying to let everybody down gently.