Player Topic: Wilfried Bony (2014/15)

[teddykgb]

I have no problem with Bon at all as a player...he is a very good forward who will score goals...its where he fits into the system that is the problem

Played as a loan striker then fine...but do we drop aguero to fit him in? Obviously not in most games aguero has to start

Therefore for him to play we have to play with two firwards which then gives us the problem of the old 4-4-2 arguement.

aguero isnt tevez.......his dropping deep into midfield in nowhere near as effective...he cannt tackle and harry as well as tevez used to do...he tries but he is nowhere near as good at it......and im not sure if this is somethign that BOny can do (im prepared to be corrected on that however

so if we play both players and assuming that you would also start Yaya and Silva then how do we play?

The only way i see it is

-----------Aguero-------------- Bony

------------------------Silva

milner--------=yaya------------------ferd

----------------Back 4--------------------------

--------------------GK-------------------------------------------------

That to me is way to open.....but i wouldnt have any other players in there (nasri, navas or fernando are the ones from midfield missing out)

So if Aguero starts then for Bony to play we have to go 4-4-2.........and we know the problems with that already!


For me our best starting 11 for the big games is this


----------------Aguero

-Silva----------------------------Nasri

-----ferd------ yaya-----milner-------

clichy Mangala Kompany Zabba

--------------Hart---------------------

you could argue over nasri and navas as both are equally frustrating in different ways

For me, if BOny plays one of the two forwards has to be able to drop deeper...aguero would be that man but im not sure we wan him doing that

we dont seem to have the players to suit either system of play and come up short which ever way but the 4-5-1 for me is the strongest team we can put out with basically both ferd and milner sitting behind yaya and covering the spaces that barca and liverpool (and various other teams exploit when we play 4-4-2

I do think we need to trend toward 4-3-3 with Aguero in the side. He's an amazing player but he doesn't press from the front the way we need him to in our current 4-2-2-2/4-4-2 alignment. I think we'd be much tougher to play against in a 4-3-3 with him, Silva, and someone given less defensive responsibility, but I don't know that he, Nasri, and Silva are enough to consistently produce goals. It's also quite a small alignment.

 

[Rorz88]

I have no problem with Bon at all as a player...he is a very good forward who will score goals...its where he fits into the system that is the problem

Played as a loan striker then fine...but do we drop aguero to fit him in? Obviously not in most games aguero has to start

Therefore for him to play we have to play with two firwards which then gives us the problem of the old 4-4-2 arguement.

aguero isnt tevez.......his dropping deep into midfield in nowhere near as effective...he cannt tackle and harry as well as tevez used to do...he tries but he is nowhere near as good at it......and im not sure if this is somethign that BOny can do (im prepared to be corrected on that however

so if we play both players and assuming that you would also start Yaya and Silva then how do we play?

The only way i see it is

-----------Aguero-------------- Bony

------------------------Silva

milner--------=yaya------------------ferd

----------------Back 4--------------------------

--------------------GK-------------------------------------------------

That to me is way to open.....but i wouldnt have any other players in there (nasri, navas or fernando are the ones from midfield missing out)

So if Aguero starts then for Bony to play we have to go 4-4-2.........and we know the problems with that already!


For me our best starting 11 for the big games is this


----------------Aguero

-Silva----------------------------Nasri

-----ferd------ yaya-----milner-------

clichy Mangala Kompany Zabba

--------------Hart---------------------

you could argue over nasri and navas as both are equally frustrating in different ways

For me, if BOny plays one of the two forwards has to be able to drop deeper...aguero would be that man but im not sure we wan him doing that

we dont seem to have the players to suit either system of play and come up short which ever way but the 4-5-1 for me is the strongest team we can put out with basically both ferd and milner sitting behind yaya and covering the spaces that barca and liverpool (and various other teams exploit when we play 4-4-2

I do think we need to trend toward 4-3-3 with Aguero in the side. He's an amazing player but he doesn't press from the front the way we need him to in our current 4-2-2-2/4-4-2 alignment. I think we'd be much tougher to play against in a 4-3-3 with him, Silva, and someone given less defensive responsibility, but I don't know that he, Nasri, and Silva are enough to consistently produce goals. It's also quite a small alignment.

See my post on the previous page for your answer mate

 

[Thenumber1blue]

I didn't want this signing but anyone already slagging him off is a fuckin idiot !

 

[teddykgb]

I have no problem with Bon at all as a player...he is a very good forward who will score goals...its where he fits into the system that is the problem

Played as a loan striker then fine...but do we drop aguero to fit him in? Obviously not in most games aguero has to start

Therefore for him to play we have to play with two firwards which then gives us the problem of the old 4-4-2 arguement.

aguero isnt tevez.......his dropping deep into midfield in nowhere near as effective...he cannt tackle and harry as well as tevez used to do...he tries but he is nowhere near as good at it......and im not sure if this is somethign that BOny can do (im prepared to be corrected on that however

so if we play both players and assuming that you would also start Yaya and Silva then how do we play?

The only way i see it is

-----------Aguero-------------- Bony

------------------------Silva

milner--------=yaya------------------ferd

----------------Back 4--------------------------

--------------------GK-------------------------------------------------

That to me is way to open.....but i wouldnt have any other players in there (nasri, navas or fernando are the ones from midfield missing out)

So if Aguero starts then for Bony to play we have to go 4-4-2.........and we know the problems with that already!


For me our best starting 11 for the big games is this


----------------Aguero

-Silva----------------------------Nasri

-----ferd------ yaya-----milner-------

clichy Mangala Kompany Zabba

--------------Hart---------------------

you could argue over nasri and navas as both are equally frustrating in different ways

For me, if BOny plays one of the two forwards has to be able to drop deeper...aguero would be that man but im not sure we wan him doing that

we dont seem to have the players to suit either system of play and come up short which ever way but the 4-5-1 for me is the strongest team we can put out with basically both ferd and milner sitting behind yaya and covering the spaces that barca and liverpool (and various other teams exploit when we play 4-4-2

I do think we need to trend toward 4-3-3 with Aguero in the side. He's an amazing player but he doesn't press from the front the way we need him to in our current 4-2-2-2/4-4-2 alignment. I think we'd be much tougher to play against in a 4-3-3 with him, Silva, and someone given less defensive responsibility, but I don't know that he, Nasri, and Silva are enough to consistently produce goals. It's also quite a small alignment.

See my post on the previous page for your answer mate

Yeah, I saw it and I'd be more than willing to try it, although I think you need to swap Milner and Yaya. The 4-3-3 asks the two outside midfielders in the 3 to shuttle up and down the pitch, supporting defense and attack. I don't think Yaya can play that role, especially long term. I think Yaya would be fantastic in Busquets role, although I worry that he isn't a tackler in the traditional sense (of course, before it was Busquets' role, it was Yaya's role). So I'd be happy to play something with Aguero and Silva outside of a 4-3-3 with Bony central, but think we're missing a midfielder to play outside with Fernandinho. Milner would be fine for this season, but it's a big role that requires a very complete midfielder. Koke would be fantastic in this role, I think.

Aguero --- Bony ---- Silva

Midfielder ---Yaya -- Fernandinho

LB --- Mangala --- Kompany -- Zabaleta

Hart

 

[Rorz88]

I do think we need to trend toward 4-3-3 with Aguero in the side. He's an amazing player but he doesn't press from the front the way we need him to in our current 4-2-2-2/4-4-2 alignment. I think we'd be much tougher to play against in a 4-3-3 with him, Silva, and someone given less defensive responsibility, but I don't know that he, Nasri, and Silva are enough to consistently produce goals. It's also quite a small alignment.

See my post on the previous page for your answer mate

Yeah, I saw it and I'd be more than willing to try it, although I think you need to swap Milner and Yaya. The 4-3-3 asks the two outside midfielders in the 3 to shuttle up and down the pitch, supporting defense and attack. I don't think Yaya can play that role, especially long term. I think Yaya would be fantastic in Busquets role, although I worry that he isn't a tackler in the traditional sense (of course, before it was Busquets' role, it was Yaya's role). So I'd be happy to play something with Aguero and Silva outside of a 4-3-3 with Bony central, but think we're missing a midfielder to play outside with Fernandinho. Milner would be fine for this season, but it's a big role that requires a very complete midfielder. Koke would be fantastic in this role, I think.

Aguero --- Bony ---- Silva

Midfielder ---Yaya -- Fernandinho

LB --- Mangala --- Kompany -- Zabaleta

Hart

Yes I totally agree mate, I wasn't even paying attention to the order I put the midfielders in to be honest but your quite right, Yaya has to go in the middle with Dinho and Milner/a another either side. I was concentrating more of the front 3/4. The team above with Koke/Pogba and a top left back would dominate. Dzeko has been quality of late and he still has a place in this side for me in this formation , aswell as Bony

 

[Atypical]

He has won a good few headers need him to play facing the goal not with back to it. Lack of pace is a worry.

Lack of pace in the whole team is a worry.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

I didn't want this signing but anyone already slagging him off is a fuckin idiot !

 

[Phil1]

We've gone early on this one haven't we? Haha!
Think I'll give him a bit more time than 3 cameos in 3 completely different circumstances before judging him a flop...which he won't be..

 

[CityFan94]

You can't judge a player before he's even started a game!

Bony is one of the best strikers in the league, his goal record backs that up.

He'll score a lot of goals for us and be a good signing.

 

[Marvin]

You can't judge a player before he's even started a game!

Bony is one of the best strikers in the league, his goal record backs that up.

He'll score a lot of goals for us and be a good signing.

Providing he manager plays him.

At the moment I don't think Pellegrini has ay grasp or control over what is going on.

Bony should have been the spearhead of our team from the first available moment.