Player topic: Yaya Toure (2014/15)

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Shaelumstash said:
Dax777 said:
Matt the Giant said:
This is the inevitable conclusion once you take away sentiment from the calculation. Well spoken sir.
I am a Yaya loyalist, yet I was pushing for him to be sold and Replaced by Fabregas.

It's absolutely astonishing that Fabregas went to Chelsea for £25m and no one else was in for him. Just can't get my head around it, he's in the top 5 or 6 centre mids in PL history and he's 27!

If the rumours are true that we paid £40m for Managala and £12m for Fernando, that's £52m. We could have had Fabregas and had £27m left to buy a centre back. That's a monumental fuck up, I actually think Mangala will come good, but he'll never be worth £40m. I don't think Fernando will, he's our worst buy since Hughes was in charge.

It's a case of be careful what you wish for with Yaya. In the summer I was thinking it might not be the end of the world if we sold him for big money and re structured the squad. But seeing how important he is to us this season through his absence, it will take a complete overhaul to deal with his loss.

Sinclair (can't get on the pitch)
Rodwell (can't stay fit)
 
The biggest decision we will have in the summer is whether we sell Yaya or not.

The Arsenal game showed how important he is to us and for me there isn't a player like him in world football, name me another central midfielder who can dominate play as well as he can whilst offering 15 - 20 goals a season and at least 10 assists?

I still think he has at least two more seasons at the very highest level but I would consider going for a younger option if the reported £20m came in for him, we may lose out on the goals but if we can make up for it with a goalscoring winger then we should be OK, the most important thing is we make sure we can find a replacement who can control and dominate play as well as Yaya can.

Koke would be my pick, he may not get the goals but he will get you the assists.
 
sam-caddick said:
The biggest decision we will have in the summer is whether we sell Yaya or not.

The Arsenal game showed how important he is to us and for me there isn't a player like him in world football, name me another central midfielder who can dominate play as well as he can whilst offering 15 - 20 goals a season and at least 10 assists?

I still think he has at least two more seasons at the very highest level but I would consider going for a younger option if the reported £20m came in for him, we may lose out on the goals but if we can make up for it with a goalscoring winger then we should be OK, the most important thing is we make sure we can find a replacement who can control and dominate play as well as Yaya can.

Koke would be my pick, he may not get the goals but he will get you the assists.

unless we are signing two CMs, I would keep him. I believe he will still be better than 90% of the CMs we encounter even when he is 32. we'll have to manage him better, no 2 games a week, perhaps sit him out for big european games. he still gives us drive that we are so lacking, fernandinho should theoretically be able to give it but hasnt shown it in his absence.
 
sam-caddick said:
The biggest decision we will have in the summer is whether we sell Yaya or not.

The Arsenal game showed how important he is to us and for me there isn't a player like him in world football, name me another central midfielder who can dominate play as well as he can whilst offering 15 - 20 goals a season and at least 10 assists?

I still think he has at least two more seasons at the very highest level but I would consider going for a younger option if the reported £20m came in for him, we may lose out on the goals but if we can make up for it with a goalscoring winger then we should be OK, the most important thing is we make sure we can find a replacement who can control and dominate play as well as Yaya can.

Koke would be my pick, he may not get the goals but he will get you the assists.

Unless we intend to completely rebuild our central midfield this summer (which isn't out of the question) then there's no way I'd be letting Toure go this summer. With Milner/Lampard almost certainly going out, there's room for one top player to be added in that position.
 
Mister Appointment said:
sam-caddick said:
The biggest decision we will have in the summer is whether we sell Yaya or not.

The Arsenal game showed how important he is to us and for me there isn't a player like him in world football, name me another central midfielder who can dominate play as well as he can whilst offering 15 - 20 goals a season and at least 10 assists?

I still think he has at least two more seasons at the very highest level but I would consider going for a younger option if the reported £20m came in for him, we may lose out on the goals but if we can make up for it with a goalscoring winger then we should be OK, the most important thing is we make sure we can find a replacement who can control and dominate play as well as Yaya can.

Koke would be my pick, he may not get the goals but he will get you the assists.

Unless we intend to completely rebuild our central midfield this summer (which isn't out of the question) then there's no way I'd be letting Toure go this summer. With Milner/Lampard almost certainly going out, there's room for one top player to be added in that position.

Yep no way we can allow Toure to leave this summer

Personally i think he is almost irreplaceable. I can't think of many midfielders that do what he does, controls games, strong, quick, makes goals and scores goals, as well as being our vice-captain

I said the other day in the transfer thread that Yaya would be the hardest to replace out of our 'core' players

However, if we see another summer of him playing games like last season then i guess a decision may have to be made
 
sam-caddick said:
The biggest decision we will have in the summer is whether we sell Yaya or not.

The Arsenal game showed how important he is to us and for me there isn't a player like him in world football, name me another central midfielder who can dominate play as well as he can whilst offering 15 - 20 goals a season and at least 10 assists?

I still think he has at least two more seasons at the very highest level but I would consider going for a younger option if the reported £20m came in for him, we may lose out on the goals but if we can make up for it with a goalscoring winger then we should be OK, the most important thing is we make sure we can find a replacement who can control and dominate play as well as Yaya can.

Koke would be my pick, he may not get the goals but he will get you the assists.

Yaya must be the best midfielder in the world right now at what he does and we would have to be stupid to sell him at any price. If you look at the Arsenal game, we looked so flat because the influence of Yaya in pegging back the opposition wasn't there. Teams are scared stiff of him because he arrives in an area that they cannot go to without breaking defensive lines. They have to come out of position to press him and that creates space for others and even more critically Yaya himself too can score or create a chance from anywhere.

I can't think of a single player who not just has the football attributes but also the pure physical power and pace he has. Many compare him to Pogba but Pogba is a weed compared. Look at the George Weah like goal he scored against Villa at home last year, you just do not see anyone else in the world scoring those sort of goals, no-one.
 
inbetween said:
sam-caddick said:
The biggest decision we will have in the summer is whether we sell Yaya or not.

The Arsenal game showed how important he is to us and for me there isn't a player like him in world football, name me another central midfielder who can dominate play as well as he can whilst offering 15 - 20 goals a season and at least 10 assists?

I still think he has at least two more seasons at the very highest level but I would consider going for a younger option if the reported £20m came in for him, we may lose out on the goals but if we can make up for it with a goalscoring winger then we should be OK, the most important thing is we make sure we can find a replacement who can control and dominate play as well as Yaya can.

Koke would be my pick, he may not get the goals but he will get you the assists.

Yaya must be the best midfielder in the world right now at what he does and we would have to be stupid to sell him at any price. If you look at the Arsenal game, we looked so flat because the influence of Yaya in pegging back the opposition wasn't there. Teams are scared stiff of him because he arrives in an area that they cannot go to without breaking defensive lines. They have to come out of position to press him and that creates space for others and even more critically Yaya himself too can score or create a chance from anywhere.

I can't think of a single player who not just has the football attributes but also the pure physical power and pace he has. Many compare him to Pogba but Pogba is a weed compared. Look at the George Weah like goal he scored against Villa at home last year, you just do not see anyone else in the world scoring those sort of goals, no-one.

I think we should be careful to not get into the mindset that Toure is irreplaceable because that simply isn't the case either. The Arsenal match wasn't particularly indicative of how we cope without him because we were also missing Nasri, and had Kun and Vinny being half fit which meant we were missing our complete spine.

He needs to be phased out, which IMO means buying a ball player for the middle of the park this summer, and then using Toure in a different way next season. At his age continuing to use him as the fulcrum for our midfield is risky, we need an evolution in that part of the pitch.

If the intention is to sign two complete midfield players rather than just one, then I'd be all for letting him go this summer, but that'd be quite an expensive summer as we'd be buying in a couple of other positions too.
 
We don't have to worry about Yaya anymore as according to today's gazetta Yaya is happily going to accept a 75% reduction in salary to go to inter and we will accept a 6 or 7m fee for him!
 
Yaya is our single most important player and can go on playing at this level for years

Those talking about replacing him are off their heads

Think of the vital goals he scores, and the important moments in games. More often it's a pass or a little dribble from Yaya Toure that unlocks a defence.
 
couldn't agree more, he is 31 not 41,he has 3 good years minimum left in him and we need to milk it as much as we can. We are talking about one of the best midfielders in the world who scores bags of goals, in big games, and when we need them!. Would we have dropped points against Everton and Arse with him in the team. I don't think so. Go find a replacement for the 20 mil you think we should sell him for.
He's going knowhere until contract ends!
 
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