Plzen ticketing issue! Not a happy bunny

[Phil1]

I'm on the cup scheme and felt that the three games for £99 was fair value. I don't think I'm being ripped off now that there's discount tickets on offer, on the contrary, I'm happy that the stadium will be pretty much full and the atmosphere will benefit.
This isn't a situation where people are getting priced out, everyone on the scheme seemed happy with the price structure when it was implemented at the beginning of our group stage.
Like everything in life, you win some you lose some. I just can't get too upset at potentially saving £13, not now, not after what the club is doing and the direction our owners are taking us.
I appreciate that stance isn't held by everyone, we're all different and our financial circumstances play a part of that. In this instance City are just trying to plug the gaps and if by doing so there are supporters who go for the first time then so be it - hopefully they will enjoy it and be back again.
Cleavers said it best on the first couple of pages. It's the harsh reality of where we're going as a club, but if we don't move forward what's the point?
Our owners have enough credit in the bank for me not to worry about a few hundred fans saving enough to buy themselves burger, chips, coffee and a programme.

 

[Blue Mist]

Has anyone seen an Invoice from MCFC to GMP for the ACTUAL cost of said tickets ??
If not then I suggest you ask to see a copy or STFU.Just beacause A.N.Other belongs to another organisation,who offer them cheaply to either their Staff or Associates as a "thank you",then who the fuck are we to tell others what to do.
However,if someone should be able to disprove that said tickets are being sold by MCFC at a cost far cheaper than those on the Cup Scheme,thats when MCFC have a mighty big question to answer.
So in a nutshell,WHO HAS SEEN AN INVOICE and if GMP are subsidising part of the cost,then good luck to all those people concerned.

Wow. So now we have to see an invoice before people will believe it, do you also want me to scan it and put it on here so that everyone can see it is true. Even then someone will say that it is a fake !
I know for a FACT that GMP are selling them for £15. Are you suggesting City are selling them to GMP for more and a public body are taking a loss, that wouldn't sit well with rate payers...hang on, don't tell me, the City are charging full price and the social club are subsidising there members. Yeh right.

I assume you`ve NEVER been on a Club Committee ?? I am NOT arguing whether the tickets being sold are £15.The point is that Clubs/Societies up and down the country actually subsidise certain functions out of THEIR funds NOT out of Tax Payers Money !!!
Clearly its something you don`t understand.By the way do you think that people who work for MCFC do NOT receive any form of subsidies from their Employer ??

I have been on a committee and I am more than aware they subsidise certain things but I am not naïve enough to think the Sports and Social of GMP are subsidising the tickets. As I stated earlier I know someone who works for them so I know for a fact they aint. I am sticking to facts you seem to struggle with that, I am not talking about the Westfallian Society for Vegetables subsidising tickets for something. I am talking about GMP who DO NOT subsides the tickets. They sell them at that price because that is the price City have instructed.
Oh and yes I am more than aware that City give their staff cut price/free tickets. No problem with that.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The club clearly have a fair number of tickets to shift so SHB might well have a point about the pricing. Perhaps it would have been better to wait to see who we were playing and what the consequences of the game would be before setting a price.

But having said that, they made a pricing decision and have been left with excess stock. It therefore makes sense to try to get a marginal return in order to meet what will be a largely fixed cost of staging the game. Or maybe they're Plzen tickets not being used.

If they'd put them on open sale at £15 then I'd expect a refund of the difference but they haven't. They've put a limited number of tickets out to a limited & restricted subset for one game only. So that's great if you're part of that subset and you fancy attending. It maybe that this price is subsidised so as a paying member of that group you're getting something for your subs.

But from a regular fan's point of view you get a season ticket to guarantee your seat and because it's cheaper than buying on a match-by-match basis. So you've saved far more than the £13 "extra" you've paid.

Also, going on the CL scheme means you're guaranteed to get to games against the likes of Barcelona or Real Madrid. There'd be no £15 tickets for those I bet.

DD's analogy is not a bad one. As an alternative imagine being a member of a club or gym then finding subs reduced to half price for new members a couple of months later. That's tough.

A simpler analogy than my earlier one is when you book a holiday, you get there and get chatting to a couple who paid several hundred less by booking one of those last minute holidays where they choose the hotel for you.

To further that analogy, they might have had fairly shit flight times. They certainly wouldn't have got the deal if the hotel had been full. By the same token the few people who've been offered these cheaper tickets (you've hit on the key point: they haven't gone on open sale) are probably in shit seats and won't get any tickets for any games where they are hard to obtain if we happen to do well.

The ones moaning might just be happy they went on the scheme if we get to the semi or the final in Barcalona.

Never was the saying truer: you pays yer money and takes yer choice.

But, didsbury Dave, the glaringly obvious difference here, and what everyone is upset about is that their loyalty to the club is being ignored. The bloke on holiday who paid too much, probably hasn't spent the last 40 years supporting and giving his hard earned dough to the holiday company.

Sorry mate. You attend MCFC matches because you want to, not for the good of Manchester city. You are at liberty to stop going at any point you want. Plenty do. It's as simple as that, I'm afraid. You made a choice to part with your hundred quid, like I did. Being bitter because a few students or coppers manage to get a last-minute unsold shit seat is basically pointless jealousy.

There is a reward for your "loyalty" (which is really an incentive), because you pay much less than a walk-up fan for league matches and you get access to hard-to-get tickets before everyone else.

City don't owe you anything. Sheikh Mansour might even argue that you owe him, bearing in mind he's spent close to a billion pounds on the club.

 

[Cobwebcat]

If you buy something at a good price, that you are happy to pay, and then later the item appears in a sale at half price then that's tough luck. You are no worse off its just that those that waited are better off. So you either wait yourself or don't compare what you paid with others?

Apologies if I have missed the point as I haven't read all the thread just the gist.

I dont think City have done anything wrong. In fact they are being quite nice on the face of it.

 

[stonerblue]

So having joined the cup schemes etc I thought I was getting a half decent deal. Have never slagged the club for pricing etc as I understand they have to make money however when I get in work this afternoon and find out that I could get tickets for £15 for Plzen and I have paid £28 I find it a little galling to say the least.
Surely this has to be brought up/highlighted or maybe it has.
It's not the price of £28 as I thpought that fine,it's the fact that any blue in the sports and social can buy a ticket for £15 which has annoyed me somewhat.
Years and years of loyalty apparently mean fuck all.
Just proves that we are seen as cash cows at times.

If this was a crucial game the tickets would be double your price and you'd then be laughing.

Why not price it at £15 for cup scheme members????

 

[Didsbury Dave]

If you buy something at a good price, that you are happy to pay, and then later the item apears in a sale at half price then that's tough luck. You are no worse off its just that those that waited are better off. So you either wait yourself or don't compare what you paid with others?

Apologies if I have missed the point as I haven't read all the thread just the gist.

I dont think City have done anything wrong. In fact they are being quite nice on the face of it.

It really is no more complicated than that. You pays yer money and takes yer choices. The jealous ones are totally at liberty to take their chances on this being repeated next year, and make friends with students or coppers or whatever. But I hope none of them feel sour that they miss out on any tickets to big games further on in the competition.

 

[squirtyflower]

If you buy something at a good price, that you are happy to pay, and then later the item apears in a sale at half price then that's tough luck. You are no worse off its just that those that waited are better off. So you either wait yourself or don't compare what you paid with others?

Apologies if I have missed the point as I haven't read all the thread just the gist.

I dont think City have done anything wrong. In fact they are being quite nice on the face of it.

It really is no more complicated than that. You pays yer money and takes yer choices. The jealous ones are totally at liberty to take their chances on this being repeated next year, and make friends with students or coppers or whatever. But I hope none of them feel sour that they miss out on any tickets to big games further on in the competition.

Oh they will

There will be a thread on here moaning that City no longer look after the 'loyal seasoncard holders' who have been going since 1923, yet haven't attended a single fucking game in that competition until it gets to a final
Meanwhile City will be doling out freebies plus cash to all the JCLs who were in said competition's cup scheme, even though some of those JCLs will have been going since 1922

 

[Blue Mist]

If you buy something at a good price, that you are happy to pay, and then later the item apears in a sale at half price then that's tough luck. You are no worse off its just that those that waited are better off. So you either wait yourself or don't compare what you paid with others?

Apologies if I have missed the point as I haven't read all the thread just the gist.

I dont think City have done anything wrong. In fact they are being quite nice on the face of it.

It really is no more complicated than that. You pays yer money and takes yer choices. The jealous ones are totally at liberty to take their chances on this being repeated next year, and make friends with students or coppers or whatever. But I hope none of them feel sour that they miss out on any tickets to big games further on in the competition.

Why do you always have to resort to name calling. The jealous ones ? WTF does that mean ? I am not jealous nor any other silly phrase you want to put in a post. (Except pissed off )
I see you and the other defenders of the rip off scheme have still not commented on Ding Dongs idea. Mind you that would be engaging in a discussion rather than WUMing.

 

[squirtyflower]

Didn't City do Ding Dong's idea a couple of seasons ago?

I seem to remember being a member of the FA Cup scheme and being told I would have to pay £15 per game up to a quarter final

Mmmm, that meant me paying £45 for our five tickets

Then we drew the mighty reds from the borough of Trafford
City set the general prices at £40
That would have cost me £200 for us to attend, so I saved £145, cheers City

Were there any threads on here congratulating the club?
No

But there were threads from non-cup schemers with the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth complaining it wasn't fair

Some you win, some you lose.

 

[pride in battle]

You can see both sides of the argument, everyone wants the stadium full, the problem as I see it as the one's who have committed to the 3 game for £99 can be aggrieved to hear tickets are available for £15... A solution I feel would to give all who paid for the 3 games upfront a voucher to save say £25 in the shop if they spent £75 and above.This way the customer is happy and it doesn't cost City a thing as it's being spent in the club.Everyone's a winner....