Plzen ticketing issue! Not a happy bunny

[Matty]

The only alternative is to make absolutely everyone else pay £33 for this game and play it in front of thousands of empty seats. What else could they do? I'm amazed they're actually sticking to such a high general sale price, so at least give them some credit for that.

The price you paid was fair when you paid it. They can't factor in the fact that demand for the final game might be exceptionally low, just as they can't factor in the demand being exceptionally high. As I said, that's just the risk you take when buying things in advance; there's no point getting upset by it.

What about another alternative where "loyal fans" are offered tickets for £15 for the final home group game at the start of the season. Without knowing who we play, or if it`s meaningless. [ Cup Scheme ].
If it turns out we play Plezen with nothing on the game. The attendance is the same as it will be next week. 3/4 full with cup schemers, members of GMP + families & friends, virgin empioyees, NHS employees, students and any amature footballer who wants to apply through their FA.
Or it turns out we play Bayern where the winner goes through to the knockout stages. The attendance is FULL with cup schemers paying /sorry already paid £15, and anyone else scrambling for all remaining tickets priced £33 [or more].

If option 1 happens - next years cup scheme remains the same. [ fans willing to pay up front regardless]
If option2 happens - next years cup scheme is increased. [fans not wanting to miss out]

AND NOBODY RIPPED OFF

WARNING. If you come up with any more sensible suggestions like that you will be banned.

How is that sensible?

Manchester City are two things, they are a football club, and they are a business. Why on earth, as a business, would you agree to sell tickets to thousands of "scheme members" for £15 when you can sell them for more than that? How many people, out of the at a guess 40,000 who will attend the Plzen game, do you honestly think will be paying £15 compared with the £28 or £33 that others are paying? How much lost revenue is that if they were all paying just £15 up front? What if it had turned out to be the Bayern game? Tickets for that were sold at more than £33 to none scheme members, and more than £28 to scheme members.

Lets assume the game doesn't change (it's Plzen) and the price is set at £15 for all upfront.

We get 40,000 attending, 20,000 scheme members and 20,000 non scheme members (2,000 of which would have been eligible to the £15 tickets under the GMP initiative). The total revenue from ticket sales here is 40,000 x £15 = £600,000.

Now lets say the ticket pricing is the same as this season. £28 for scheme members, £33 for the rest (apart from GMP who can get them for £15).

We get less attending due to the price, lets say only 35,000. 20,000 scheme members, 15,000 non scheme members (2,000 of which would have been eligible to the £15 tickets under the GMP initiative). The total revenue from ticket sales here is (20,000 x £28) + (13,000 x £33) + (2,000 x £15) = £1,085,000.

That's a difference of £485,000 in revenue, nearly half a million.

That's just an example, with some numbers clearly guessed at, but the point was just to illustrate quite how much money City would be throwing away if they did this. It just doesn't make any sense financially. The fact they previously did this in a domestic cup, then drew United and lost out on huge sums of money, has probably chastened City into not doing this again.

 

[moomba]

Were there any threads on here congratulating the club?
No

But there were threads from non-cup schemers with the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth complaining it wasn't fair

Some you win, some you lose.

There was a lot of positive talk about the price caps back then. As there would be if we had a reasonable pricing structure in this seasons schemes.

 

[squirtyflower]

Were there any threads on here congratulating the club?
No

But there were threads from non-cup schemers with the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth complaining it wasn't fair

Some you win, some you lose.

There was a lot of positive talk about the price caps back then. As there would be if we had a reasonable pricing structure in this seasons schemes.

Like I said to you before mate, I do think a 'fair' price would have been about £85

However City could offer all three for £30 and the moaning fucks near me, all seasoncard holders of long standing, still wouldn't turn up as they'd rather watch it on TV

 

[oakiecokie]

Wow. So now we have to see an invoice before people will believe it, do you also want me to scan it and put it on here so that everyone can see it is true. Even then someone will say that it is a fake !
I know for a FACT that GMP are selling them for £15. Are you suggesting City are selling them to GMP for more and a public body are taking a loss, that wouldn't sit well with rate payers...hang on, don't tell me, the City are charging full price and the social club are subsidising there members. Yeh right.

I assume you`ve NEVER been on a Club Committee ?? I am NOT arguing whether the tickets being sold are £15.The point is that Clubs/Societies up and down the country actually subsidise certain functions out of THEIR funds NOT out of Tax Payers Money !!!
Clearly its something you don`t understand.By the way do you think that people who work for MCFC do NOT receive any form of subsidies from their Employer ??

I have been on a committee and I am more than aware they subsidise certain things but I am not naïve enough to think the Sports and Social of GMP are subsidising the tickets. As I stated earlier I know someone who works for them so I know for a fact they aint. I am sticking to facts you seem to struggle with that, I am not talking about the Westfallian Society for Vegetables subsidising tickets for something. I am talking about GMP who DO NOT subsides the tickets. They sell them at that price because that is the price City have instructed.
Oh and yes I am more than aware that City give their staff cut price/free tickets. No problem with that.

So these tickets are actually printed with a cost showing £15 and as I said "heresay" aint always the best source.You would probably be one of the first one here if a journalist had used the words "a spokesman from the club said..."
Stick to what you know best ... vegatables !

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

I assume you`ve NEVER been on a Club Committee ?? I am NOT arguing whether the tickets being sold are £15.The point is that Clubs/Societies up and down the country actually subsidise certain functions out of THEIR funds NOT out of Tax Payers Money !!!
Clearly its something you don`t understand.By the way do you think that people who work for MCFC do NOT receive any form of subsidies from their Employer ??

I have been on a committee and I am more than aware they subsidise certain things but I am not naïve enough to think the Sports and Social of GMP are subsidising the tickets. As I stated earlier I know someone who works for them so I know for a fact they aint. I am sticking to facts you seem to struggle with that, I am not talking about the Westfallian Society for Vegetables subsidising tickets for something. I am talking about GMP who DO NOT subsides the tickets. They sell them at that price because that is the price City have instructed.
Oh and yes I am more than aware that City give their staff cut price/free tickets. No problem with that.

So these tickets are actually printed with a cost showing £15 and as I said "heresay" aint always the best source.You would probably be one of the first one here if a journalist had used the words "a spokesman from the club said..."
Stick to what you know best ... vegatables !

Oakie..I have worked for the police for fifteen years mate..I have seen the email myself..15 pounds..are you questioning my integrity then because you dont believe it??
He is 100% telling the truth.

I hope the ones backing the club dont moan when their season tickets goes up yet again next yr.I wont because I accept it however I dont accept some one match per season goer paying less than me.
Dave says loyalty doesnt exist?That is rubbish imo.Without the fans clubs are fuck all imo.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

You can see both sides of the argument, everyone wants the stadium full, the problem as I see it as the one's who have committed to the 3 game for £99 can be aggrieved to hear tickets are available for £15... A solution I feel would to give all who paid for the 3 games upfront a voucher to save say £25 in the shop if they spent £75 and above.This way the customer is happy and it doesn't cost City a thing as it's being spent in the club.Everyone's a winner....

Everyone's a winner now.

Those of us who paid £99 up front got our regular seat and no hassles at a price we were happy to pay. We also have our seat guaranteed for the forthcoming games, which will surely be in big demand. We also have a good chance of tickets for any exciting away legs coming up and even the final, should be get there.

A few coppers and students get to see a cheap game of football from the front or the gods. But nothing else.

City get a bit of extra revenue, more fans in the stadium and potentially some new long-term customers.

Happy days. If I was Khaldoon I'd be happy with the way my business is being run. A few whinges on a forum won't make any difference to him. It doesn't matter if City opened the doors for free, they'd be there.

99% of the people in the stadium will neither know nor care that a few tickets have been sold on the cheap. It's not like city are giving them away with cornflakes, is it?

 

[Anonymous]

A few coppers and students get to see a cheap game of football from the front or the gods. But nothing else.

Are those the only people who get the tickets discounted ? Students and coppers?

Funnily enough I've a friend in Manc who's a copper and his station gets free tickets to pretty much every home match. Even the derby.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I have been on a committee and I am more than aware they subsidise certain things but I am not naïve enough to think the Sports and Social of GMP are subsidising the tickets. As I stated earlier I know someone who works for them so I know for a fact they aint. I am sticking to facts you seem to struggle with that, I am not talking about the Westfallian Society for Vegetables subsidising tickets for something. I am talking about GMP who DO NOT subsides the tickets. They sell them at that price because that is the price City have instructed.
Oh and yes I am more than aware that City give their staff cut price/free tickets. No problem with that.

So these tickets are actually printed with a cost showing £15 and as I said "heresay" aint always the best source.You would probably be one of the first one here if a journalist had used the words "a spokesman from the club said..."
Stick to what you know best ... vegatables !

Oakie..I have worked for the police for fifteen years mate..I have seen the email myself..15 pounds..are you questioning my integrity then because you dont believe it??
He is 100% telling the truth.

I hope the ones backing the club dont moan when their season tickets goes up yet again next yr.I wont because I accept it however I dont accept some one match per season goer paying less than me.
Dave says loyalty doesnt exist?That is rubbish imo.Without the fans clubs are fuck all imo.

I didn't say loyalty didn't exist.

I keep making the point that loyalty is rewarded with access to hard-to-get away tickets, cup finals etc, and cheaper prices than anyone else for league games.

But no one will address that point.

 

[oakiecokie]

I have been on a committee and I am more than aware they subsidise certain things but I am not naïve enough to think the Sports and Social of GMP are subsidising the tickets. As I stated earlier I know someone who works for them so I know for a fact they aint. I am sticking to facts you seem to struggle with that, I am not talking about the Westfallian Society for Vegetables subsidising tickets for something. I am talking about GMP who DO NOT subsides the tickets. They sell them at that price because that is the price City have instructed.
Oh and yes I am more than aware that City give their staff cut price/free tickets. No problem with that.

So these tickets are actually printed with a cost showing £15 and as I said "heresay" aint always the best source.You would probably be one of the first one here if a journalist had used the words "a spokesman from the club said..."
Stick to what you know best ... vegatables !

Oakie..I have worked for the police for fifteen years mate..I have seen the email myself..15 pounds..are you questioning my integrity then because you dont believe it??
He is 100% telling the truth.

I hope the ones backing the club dont moan when their season tickets goes up yet again next yr.I wont because I accept it however I dont accept some one match per season goer paying less than me.
Dave says loyalty doesnt exist?That is rubbish imo.Without the fans clubs are fuck all imo.

I`m not calling anyone a liar.I have only asked the question "has anyone actually seen an invoice from the Club to the Police",as we know how "hearsay" can invariably be not all it seems.So just to clarify, a letter from MCFC to the GMP clearly states that they can be sold for the sum of £15 and that is what they are being invoiced for, per head ?
This will always happen,that tickets are distributed to various types of companies all over Greater Manchester,mostly as part of a PR exercise,moreso when they realise that Ticket Sales are not going as well as anticipated.Costs ?? Well I have to agree thats a chance you take and thats the same for most fans.

 

[CatMan]

What about a 'Price Drop Auction' like you see on Price Drop TV!

In fact all Ticket sales could be televised on the sure to happen City TV channel. That Irish girl and Natalie Pike could be the presenters.

When the last ticket is sold everyone pays the final figure. Buying early gets the comfy seats on Level 2!

For each 5,000 tickets sold the presenters must remove some clothing!

Win, Win, Win!

All tickets sold at a bargain price and everybody is smiling ;-)