Political relations between UK-EU

You need all four freedoms for a Single Market, otherwise it’s not a Single Market and a FTA has nowhere near the same seamless access (as we are finding out) as a Single Market, especially on services because services is people, and FoM is about people.
Thanks Bob, after four years in this thread I needed that clarification on the Four Freedoms, didn’t have a clue what it was until you’ve just informed me.
 
We’ll survive and the country will be fine but I still don’t think it was worth it.

There are some that are needlessly negative though.

Im sure we’ll survive, and I agree it wasn’t worth it, but I’m not sure the country will be fine. The real impact of the economic hit is yet to be seen, the divisions within our country will take a long time to heal and I think the chances of Ireland unifying are now greater than they have been in my lifetime.
 
I doubt @SWP's back could kill someone when ordering a beer in pigeon Arabic but actually ends up ordering a glass of marbles instead. A nurse on the other hand not having a basic grasp of the language of the country they operate in could be quite dangerous and should be a minimum standard. Which is why it is part of the NNMC’s fitness to practice test (including crazy stuff like qualifications) prior to providing a pin to enable them to work.

Anyone working abroad and not choosing to learn the basics will just end up making life harder on themselves. I can’t describe the troubles I had when I first moved to the USA, I particularly recall one episode when trying to explain that someone was off ill when I said they “were poorly” I then had to explain that they did have enough money to get to work but they were in fact unwell but the damage was done.
Turn up for the interview and cant communicate, no job.
Had jobs in France and Greece where i knew next to nothing language wise. Digging holes was one and breaking rocks was another so pointing and grunting usually worked fine.
Obviously , highly skilled team work that depends on flawless communication requires people to know the language properly.
In the context of the immigration bill, having to pass a language test is yet another barrier.

I remember moving schools from Manchester to Nottingham as a 13 year old. First question the PE teacher asked me was, 'What house are you in?''
Quick as a flash i replied, ''305 Bostocks Lane Sir.''
Oh how the changing rooms laughed..
 
Im sure we’ll survive, and I agree it wasn’t worth it, but I’m not sure the country will be fine. The real impact of the economic hit is yet to be seen, the divisions within our country will take a long time to heal and I think the chances of Ireland unifying are now greater than they have been in my lifetime.
Things have already started to heal, ignoring Twitter and this sub forum, nobody in the street gives a fuck anymore, it’s all Covid and then it’ll be celebrating after Covid has fucked off.
 
More fishing woes...

'North-east fishing leaders are demanding urgent talks with the UK Government after likening the shambles created by Brexit to a “motorway crash”.

The new red tape also means that every box of fresh seafood and salmon has to be offloaded from lorries and inspected by vets before they leave Scotland – which can take up to five hours.’


 

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