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Political relations between UK-EU
- Thread starter Ric
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Yes, the development. I know the answer and it certainly isn't the EU that's been stopping us building on brownfield sites.The development?
I never said nor claimed it is.Yes, the development. I know the answer and it certainly isn't the EU that's been stopping us building on brownfield sites.
All I’ve said is the government shouldn’t build anything on greenfield sites, when there’s plenty of options.
I think you’re mistaking me for someone who wanted Brexit.
Exactly - I asked previously what some posters would have felt about the UK position in 2021 with a new MFF being introduced and with the Covid recovery funding baked in with commitments to integration linked.Which we can now change to suit us, rather than change to suit the EU whether it suits us or not, or not even be allowed to change because it doesn’t suit the EU.
I would rather the position we have now - invest as, when and where we choose to drive recovery rather than transfer our funding to the EU and get some of it back to invest where they instruct and subject to 'conditions'
hilts
Well-Known Member
You don’t say:-)You live in a Union that has Freedom of Movement between four nations.
I think it started with immigration putting a strain on resources, but it's the resources that have been cut due to austerity (aka ideological) policies. So we can't blame the EU for Tory slash and burn policies (like the NHS STP programme - slash, trash and privatise).But did the EU prevent any country doing that? If not then that's a complete red herring.
It flows from the anti-FoM stuff. Immigration puts a strain on resources, erroneously extrapolated to more immgrants mean more lost countryside, then moves on to why not build on brownfield, but most brownfield sites have already been built on, and if they haven't - why not (for that particular site)? You're right though, unless people think new immigrants are buying a lot of new houses built on greenfield sites, it's not much to do with Brexit.I never said nor claimed it is.
All I’ve said is the government shouldn’t build anything on greenfield sites, when there’s plenty of options.
I think you’re mistaking me for someone who wanted Brexit.
hilts
Well-Known Member
Hearing whispers that Spain now requires an annual income of £30,000 if you wish to apply for residency.... and your private health cover.
Lol
Fascists:-)
What commitments to what integration?Exactly - I asked previously what some posters would have felt about the UK position in 2021 with a new MFF being introduced and with the Covid recovery funding baked in with commitments to integration linked.
I would rather the position we have now - invest as, when and where we choose to drive recovery rather than transfer our funding to the EU and get some of it back to invest where they instruct and subject to 'conditions'
Purely a population reason.It flows from the anti-FoM stuff. Immigration puts a strain on resources, erroneously extrapolated to more immgrants mean more lost countryside, then moves on to why not build on brownfield, but most brownfield sites have already been built on, and if they haven't - why not (for that particular site)? You're right though, unless people think new immigrants are buying a lot of new houses built on greenfield sites, it's not much to do with Brexit.
It might not be the immigrants buying on greenfield sites but If they buy in city centres and there’s a lack of housing there, it’ll need to spill out into the countryside and suddenly we’ll be forced to build on more and more greenfield sites.
It’s purely a numbers game imo and that’s one reason why I’m against FoM generally speaking.