Possible new stadium - some interesting information

kramer said:
blumoonrises said:
Of course the roof can be removed in sections..! it's not a prefab thing that was lowered into place..!
But as has already been pointed out these people don't do things by halves, we are more likely to end up with a new stadium which will be the best and most original design in the world.

No it can't

I think people are getting confused with the roof panels and the 'roof' per se.

The roof panels can be removed but not easily but that doesnt remove the cable system and the massive anchors into the ground.
 
Here's how it will go down...

- Stadium plans confirmed before 2011

Starting Summer 2011

- Pitch lowered by two metres and additional rows of seating put into place, followed by a new heating system and pitch.

Starting Summer 2012

- North Stand roof removed.
-Temporary structures are used to keep the balance of the remaining roof structure.
- A third tier is added to the North Stand and a new roof it added
- The modern new North Stand exterior begins to give COMS a unique feel

Starting summer 2014

- The South Stand gets the same going over as the North Stand
 
ManCityX said:
Here's how it will go down...

- Stadium plans confirmed before 2011

Starting Summer 2011

- Pitch lowered by two metres and additional rows of seating put into place, followed by a new heating system and pitch.

Starting Summer 2012

- North Stand roof removed.
-Temporary structures are used to keep the balance of the remaining roof structure.
- A third tier is added to the North Stand and a new roof it added
- The modern new North Stand exterior begins to give COMS a unique feel

Starting summer 2014

- The South Stand gets the same going over as the North Stand


Wonderland! where anything is possible.
 
kramer said:
ManCityX said:
Here's how it will go down...

- Stadium plans confirmed before 2011

Starting Summer 2011

- Pitch lowered by two metres and additional rows of seating put into place, followed by a new heating system and pitch.

Starting Summer 2012

- North Stand roof removed.
-Temporary structures are used to keep the balance of the remaining roof structure.
- A third tier is added to the North Stand and a new roof it added
- The modern new North Stand exterior begins to give COMS a unique feel

Starting summer 2014

- The South Stand gets the same going over as the North Stand


Wonderland! where anything is possible.

When Sheik Mansour is involved anything is possible :)
 
ManCityX said:
Here's how it will go down...

- Stadium plans confirmed before 2011

Starting Summer 2011

- Pitch lowered by two metres and additional rows of seating put into place, followed by a new heating system and pitch.

Starting Summer 2012

- North Stand roof removed.
-Temporary structures are used to keep the balance of the remaining roof structure.
- A third tier is added to the North Stand and a new roof it added
- The modern new North Stand exterior begins to give COMS a unique feel

Starting summer 2014

- The South Stand gets the same going over as the North Stand


Are we having a smaller pitch then? Or are they going down 2m vertically? Surely, there isn't enough room to dig down further and this would also cause problems for getting daylight to the pitch.
 
nijinskybell said:
ManCityX said:
Here's how it will go down...

- Stadium plans confirmed before 2011

Starting Summer 2011

- Pitch lowered by two metres and additional rows of seating put into place, followed by a new heating system and pitch.

Starting Summer 2012

- North Stand roof removed.
-Temporary structures are used to keep the balance of the remaining roof structure.
- A third tier is added to the North Stand and a new roof it added
- The modern new North Stand exterior begins to give COMS a unique feel

Starting summer 2014

- The South Stand gets the same going over as the North Stand


Are we having a smaller pitch then? Or are they going down 2m vertically? Surely, there isn't enough room to dig down further and this would also cause problems for getting daylight to the pitch.

i'm not sure lowering the pitch by 2 metres, compared to the current levels of sunlight it gets, will have a huge effect on the sunlight the pitch gets, baring in mind the club already uses those light gantries during the night!
 
eshiers1 said:
nijinskybell said:
Are we having a smaller pitch then? Or are they going down 2m vertically? Surely, there isn't enough room to dig down further and this would also cause problems for getting daylight to the pitch.

i'm not sure lowering the pitch by 2 metres, compared to the current levels of sunlight it gets, will have a huge effect on the sunlight the pitch gets, baring in mind the club already uses those light gantries during the night!

Dunno. Just doesn't seem a straight-forward job.
 
kramer said:
blumoonrises said:
Of course the roof can be removed in sections..! it's not a prefab thing that was lowered into place..!
But as has already been pointed out these people don't do things by halves, we are more likely to end up with a new stadium which will be the best and most original design in the world.

No it can't

I'm qualified and confident enough to say it can.!
The inner ring and cable supports would stay in place until the new roof structure is completed with its own ring section, which is then attached and tensioned to the existing one resulting in one continuous ring angling up to the new higher section, before removing the old part.
stad1.jpg


Roof structure
Concept and structural systems
A central feature of The City of Manchester Stadium is its
distinctive and dynamic form, key to which is the structural
solution for supporting the roof. The roof structure essentially
comprises two separate structural systems.
12 cigar-shaped tubular steel masts up to 65m high
support a total of 76 spiral strand forestay cables in fanshaped
groups of five or seven cables per mast. Each
forestay supports an individual rafter. The rafters are supported at the rear of the Stadium bowl through integrated V-strut columns on the
concrete bowl. The V-struts allow sufficient headroom
between the rear seating terraces and roof structure as well
as providing for transfer of horizontal thrust from the rafters
to the bowl. Towards the inside of the Stadium the rafters
cantilever by up to 14m beyond the support provided by
the forestays.
 
your qualified...... with a statement like that! building a bigger higher roof & then expecting the existing supports to take the forces x god knows how much more??????????

sorry mate, no way on gods earth

removal of the complete roof before any new one above it & we will all be in the Gene Kelly stand for a season or 2
 

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