DontLookBackInAnger
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Although if we had 100,000 seater it would be pretty funny to see how high we could stick the rags, they would end up nearly back in Trafford!BlueT said:
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Possible new stadium - some interesting information
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not my fault!
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Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season. We wont be without any seating for next year but could be playing without any roof! I have mentioned this in the other thread, I know because my old man was at the meeting with the developer and he has seen the plans etc of the whole area development and he says it looks amazing. His company have been promised some of the secondery steel work too so happy days.
I PM'd a few months ago with this and it's all starting to come out now, the site over the road being bought etc etc.
I PM'd a few months ago with this and it's all starting to come out now, the site over the road being bought etc etc.
bluwes
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One of the things the club want to be able to cater for are the 850+ gala dinner type functions that they can't offer at the moment.
A few years ago I was involved in helping organising an event that required that sort of facility. Where did we end up going........The bloody Reebok stadium, we had 800 sat down to a four course dinner.
At the moment the nearest facility to the City centre is the old Gorton Monastry that has been converted into a banqueting and conference centre and the most they can manage is 500.
Believe me there is a big market for a place that can hold that type of event and we are missing out on it at the moment as we can on do the marquee on the car park stuff, and its not good enough.
A few years ago I was involved in helping organising an event that required that sort of facility. Where did we end up going........The bloody Reebok stadium, we had 800 sat down to a four course dinner.
At the moment the nearest facility to the City centre is the old Gorton Monastry that has been converted into a banqueting and conference centre and the most they can manage is 500.
Believe me there is a big market for a place that can hold that type of event and we are missing out on it at the moment as we can on do the marquee on the car park stuff, and its not good enough.
not my fault! said:Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season. We wont be without any seating for next year but could be playing without any roof! I have mentioned this in the other thread, I know because my old man was at the meeting with the developer and he has seen the plans etc of the whole area development and he says it looks amazing. His company have been promised some of the secondery steel work too so happy days.
I PM'd a few months ago with this and it's all starting to come out now, the site over the road being bought etc etc.
The lack of a roof is in contravention of EPL rules and wont be allowed.
It was made clear to all clubs that this was a benchmark requirement and is non-negotiable.
Trigger
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not my fault! said:Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season. We wont be without any seating for next year but could be playing without any roof! I have mentioned this in the other thread, I know because my old man was at the meeting with the developer and he has seen the plans etc of the whole area development and he says it looks amazing. His company have been promised some of the secondery steel work too so happy days.
I PM'd a few months ago with this and it's all starting to come out now, the site over the road being bought etc etc.
I seriously hope it is at the end of this season!
At our stewards brief on Wednesday it was mentioned that the owner was looking to extend the stadium capacity and we were also told that Music concerts would return in the summer of 2011.
Therefore if not this year and not possible to do next close season because of concerts then it surely would be too long to wait til 2012, these guys dont usually mess around when they decide to do something.
bluemanc
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Is evertons lack of a view in contravention of EPL rules,we could do with nailing those buggers.fbloke said:not my fault! said:Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season. We wont be without any seating for next year but could be playing without any roof! I have mentioned this in the other thread, I know because my old man was at the meeting with the developer and he has seen the plans etc of the whole area development and he says it looks amazing. His company have been promised some of the secondery steel work too so happy days.
I PM'd a few months ago with this and it's all starting to come out now, the site over the road being bought etc etc.
The lack of a roof is in contravention of EPL rules and wont be allowed.
It was made clear to all clubs that this was a benchmark requirement and is non-negotiable.
Dubai Blue
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How do they possibly expect clubs to expand their stadiums then? When did this ruling come in? And if true, what a pathetic rule.fbloke said:not my fault! said:Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season. We wont be without any seating for next year but could be playing without any roof! I have mentioned this in the other thread, I know because my old man was at the meeting with the developer and he has seen the plans etc of the whole area development and he says it looks amazing. His company have been promised some of the secondery steel work too so happy days.
I PM'd a few months ago with this and it's all starting to come out now, the site over the road being bought etc etc.
The lack of a roof is in contravention of EPL rules and wont be allowed.
It was made clear to all clubs that this was a benchmark requirement and is non-negotiable.
bluemanc said:Is evertons lack of a view in contravention of EPL rules,we could do with nailing those buggers.fbloke said:The lack of a roof is in contravention of EPL rules and wont be allowed.
It was made clear to all clubs that this was a benchmark requirement and is non-negotiable.
I don believe in places the need to keep the roof up means you cant see.
Chrisja1000
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It's not my fault PM'd me a few months ago with this and shared some other great info and he has been bang on with everything he has said up to now !!!
Prophet of Doom
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There is not a chance they would uphold a rule about a roof if it was due to stadium expansion ( especially if it was for a stadium that would be a world cup stadium if England win the bid ).
Not a chance
Not a chance
MCC
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bluwes said:One of the things the club want to be able to cater for are the 850+ gala dinner type functions that they can't offer at the moment.
A few years ago I was involved in helping organising an event that required that sort of facility. Where did we end up going........The bloody Reebok stadium, we had 800 sat down to a four course dinner.
At the moment the nearest facility to the City centre is the old Gorton Monastry that has been converted into a banqueting and conference centre and the most they can manage is 500.
Believe me there is a big market for a place that can hold that type of event and we are missing out on it at the moment as we can on do the marquee on the car park stuff, and its not good enough.
"850+ gala dinner type functions"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLoVF7vcBtY[/youtube]
There`s nowt wrong with gala luncheons!
dw7
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bluwes said:One of the things the club want to be able to cater for are the 850+ gala dinner type functions that they can't offer at the moment.
A few years ago I was involved in helping organising an event that required that sort of facility. Where did we end up going........The bloody Reebok stadium, we had 800 sat down to a four course dinner.
At the moment the nearest facility to the City centre is the old Gorton Monastry that has been converted into a banqueting and conference centre and the most they can manage is 500.
Believe me there is a big market for a place that can hold that type of event and we are missing out on it at the moment as we can on do the marquee on the car park stuff, and its not good enough.
the osc had 750 for their even and we were on the concourse havin dinner. saying that it was done up pretty well a bit cold though
Interesting how it veers one day/week from stadium expansion to the next week 'more likely a new stadium'...each with their own 'ITK/contact' somewhere amongst the oiled cogs.
All the better, I like surprised and enticing and creative speculation.
btw - my daughter went to Blue Zone at Platt Lane (she loved it...) - does this score me brownie points and qualify me for the 'Blue Knights PM Speakeasy'?
All the better, I like surprised and enticing and creative speculation.
btw - my daughter went to Blue Zone at Platt Lane (she loved it...) - does this score me brownie points and qualify me for the 'Blue Knights PM Speakeasy'?
pride in battle
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somapop said:Interesting how it veers one day/week from stadium expansion to the next week 'more likely a new stadium'...each with their own 'ITK/contact' somewhere amongst the oiled cogs.
All the better, I like surprised and enticing and creative speculation.
btw - my daughter went to Blue Zone at Platt Lane (she loved it...) - does this score me brownie points and qualify me for the 'Blue Knights PM Speakeasy'?
I cannot for one minute see a new stadium,expanded capacity yes but the so called 'in the know' ie PB are either talking bullshit or are being fed bullshit
Time will tell.
Dubai Blue
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A 100k stadium would be fucking ludicrous in the extreme. A truly ridiculous idea.
Prestwich_Blue
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What about planning permission? The end of the season is 6 weeks away and they would need to have applied for and received planning permission yet no one has heard anything about this. Forgive me if I'm a bit dubious.not my fault! said:Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season.
bluemanc
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You can have a100k stadium no problem,Sunderland can increase from 35k to 47k approx by shutting the top sections off without it being visibly obvious.
In Canada stadiums have Retractable Seating & seating bolted to runners rather than concrete that can increase or decrease legroom which has a huge effect on the crowd size without once again being visible.
Think outside the box people this can & HAS been done.
In Canada stadiums have Retractable Seating & seating bolted to runners rather than concrete that can increase or decrease legroom which has a huge effect on the crowd size without once again being visible.
Think outside the box people this can & HAS been done.
m27
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Prestwich_Blue said:What about planning permission? The end of the season is 6 weeks away and they would need to have applied for and received planning permission yet no one has heard anything about this. Forgive me if I'm a bit dubious.not my fault! said:Hummm.... I can tell you now we will not be building a new stadium in or around the current one. We are expanding the one we have with the brief being it has to hold more than OT (owner wants to make a statement), the builder has been chosen to do the work and the project could start as soon as the end of this season.
...and once an application is in it will be a 13 week period for such a major scheme and then it could get 'called in' if approved to delay it even further.....you're right to be dubious PB.
m27 said:Prestwich_Blue said:What about planning permission? The end of the season is 6 weeks away and they would need to have applied for and received planning permission yet no one has heard anything about this. Forgive me if I'm a bit dubious.
...and once an application is in it will be a 13 week period for such a major scheme and then it could get 'called in' if approved to delay it even further.....you're right to be dubious PB.
Just on that point.
The planning application for City Street was submitted much earlier than anticipated by City because of the up and coming general election. If the planning application hadn't been submitted before the General Election, the City Street proposal wouldn't have got planning permission in time(should sail through) for a Summer start and completion by the start of next season. The fact that the designers/architects are still working/tinkering with the proposal shows the urgency of the submission.
As for the stadium expansion starting this Summer? Sorry, not a chance. ADUG/City are nowhere near that stage ATM. Not saying plans and feasibility Studies haven't been drawn up for the proposal and the process isn't on-going, but the actual submission of the planning application is way off.
If my money is on an expansion of COMS or a new stadium, I would go for the latter. COMS is a fanstastic stadium, but it's not suitable for purpose anymore.
m27
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jrb said:m27 said:...and once an application is in it will be a 13 week period for such a major scheme and then it could get 'called in' if approved to delay it even further.....you're right to be dubious PB.
Just on that point.
The planning application for City Street was submitted much earlier than anticipated by City because of the up and coming general election. If the planning application hadn't been submitted before the General Election, the City Street proposal wouldn't have got planning permission in time(should sail through) for a Summer start and completion by the start of next season. The fact that the designers/architects are still working/tinkering with the proposal shows the urgency of the submission.
As for the stadium expansion starting this Summer? Sorry, not a chance. ADUG/City are nowhere near that stage ATM. Not saying plans and feasibility Studies haven't been drawn up for the proposal and the process isn't on-going, but the actual submission of the planning application is way off.
If my money is on an expansion of COMS or a new stadium, I would go for the latter. COMS is a fanstastic stadium, but it's not suitbale for purpose anymore.
Re: City Street - very true mate.
The application would have gone to the Planning Committee meeting around election time when they would have deferred it (Committees simply won't make any decisions around this time, believe me) and then it could have dragged and dragged.