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Then you know the answer and therefore the right thing to do - so why did you do it?
I think you missed the part where I explained that the idea doesn't matter and the wider community tends to be more of a conservative position when it comes to change on the forum, thus the poll itself will only turn out one way. Just as a poll about moving forum software would have turned out one way, opening an EDS forum or a General Football Forum, upgrading to phpBB3, instituting temp bans, etc, etc.
Woosh.
I had a feeling about that but it's an important point that needs to be made on this thread
meeesh
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oh right......not sure how an anonymous forum name can be a nomark or whatever. Most people on here haven't a clue who anyone is....only the ones who socialise.
Oh u mean the "clique" yea am with you now
I can understand both sides of the argument. After spending a brief but informative period in the mod room, I know decisions like this aren't taken lightly. I didn't think post counts mattered much and I'm not that arsed about them either way. However, I often browse other forums to see what people are saying about City and I recently had a look on glory glory and they don't have post counts visible either. My immediate reaction was "how can I tell if someone is flapping or wumming?" Right or wrong, the majority of users look at a persons post count to decide if they can take their opinion at face value. In my opinion it's just the way people are. As for people with high post counts using thinking their opinion matters more, well I can't say I've noticed that and I've been around here for longer than most. I think I know the people who are being alluded to, but personally I think they're just naturally belligerent and obstreperous fuckers. What I have seen is users with a high post count having it used against them(sad **** with all those posts) and you can see it in this thread, albeit mildly.
When the like button was mentioned a few years ago I was dead set against it, but I want to be able to see at a glance if I can take a person seriously or not. We have 50,000+ members on here and we can't be expected to remember every username. Someone's post count isn't the most reliable or accurate way of determining if someone is wumming or not, but it is easy, quick and better than nothing.
Why not a compromise? and just have the number of posts next to someone's name until they reach a certain number? and once past that figure whether it's 1000 or 50,000 everyone will just be the same.
When the like button was mentioned a few years ago I was dead set against it, but I want to be able to see at a glance if I can take a person seriously or not. We have 50,000+ members on here and we can't be expected to remember every username. Someone's post count isn't the most reliable or accurate way of determining if someone is wumming or not, but it is easy, quick and better than nothing.
Why not a compromise? and just have the number of posts next to someone's name until they reach a certain number? and once past that figure whether it's 1000 or 50,000 everyone will just be the same.
StrangewaysHereWeCome
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Too many chefs and all that?Bluemoon isn't a democracy. This is a very important point to understand when we're talking about issues.
You have a voice. I have a voice. The mods have a voice. But Ric can and will make decisions on his own - they very often take into account numerous voices but this is very much not a democracy and instead a benevolent monarchy. Ric listens to as many sides as possible but is his own man and makes his decisions based on his ideas.
This is actually Bluemoon's biggest strength in practice though not philosophy - he'll often override the mods or make a decision to go in a different direction and his judgement is usually spot on as any formerly banned users who have emailed him will attest to. A good example would be the software of the forum; we actually ran this on a completely different software during 2 of the 3 months it took to port it from phpBB. He had spent a decent wedge on this new software, I had put hundreds of hours into setting up the DB for the new server, the mods had gotten onto the forum and started to learn the mod tools. Then after this he decided that it was the wrong direction and that we'd move to this software instead, after seeing the issues and hearing everybody's explanations. If there was a vote there then most people would have voted to stay with the version we'd all invested so much time into. But he was right and in the fullness of time it proved to be exactly the right call to abandon that work and move into this software because it was fundamentally better for the wider forum and users.
We all bring talents to the table to help this place be what it is. Ric's biggest talent in my experience of working with him is listening to as many voices as possible then seeing the wood from the trees and making good decisions. This is certainly not my strength where I get bogged down in the process rather than the resolution as many other mods do but it's why it all works so well.
I've argued here that we shouldn't have a poll and put reasons forward for that. But it's just an opinion as a poster on here no different from anyone else. One of the first things you learn as a mod is that that's how it works, we can make decisions and discuss them but ultimately Ric makes the final call on everything.
PS: Proper up his arse you are
:p
Are the ones with high post counts moaning because they are worried they might be seen as nomarks.
on an internet forum
pmsl
I suspect you're right Rasc. Probably check the member list several times a day too and sort it into order by number of posts so that they can see how far up the list they are. Must give them a warm fuzzy feeling for some reason.
meeesh
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I suspect you're right Rasc. Probably check the member list several times a day too and sort it into order by number of posts so that they can see how far up the list they are. Must give them a warm fuzzy feeling for some reason.
Are you still a mod Cheesy ?
DiscoSteve
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I am going to agree that I have no problem with 'ric' having the final say and don't want create a headache for anyone who puts in time and effort to keep this create forum running
I'm just an average punter whose only been on here for 5 years, but I am often bemused why forum administrators (not just on here) tend to meddle with basic forum stuff like this. The status quo, is the status quo, and as far as I can see its been like this for years and years and years, so I do not seen what's changed (in the last 5 years at least) to warrant a change. And I'm sure that this isn't a case of change-for-change-sake thing.
Avatars is another related subject - BM is unusual in not allowing them and I understand in the past when horsepower was a problem why you didn't have them - but 99% of the t'internet forums do - it's all part of providing a rich environment for people to interact in - and even with the less usual situation here where people actually meet in RealLife(tm) at City - that' worth having.
My two-penneth. I'll shut up now and go count the replies to my POLL post... unless its been deleted...
I'm just an average punter whose only been on here for 5 years, but I am often bemused why forum administrators (not just on here) tend to meddle with basic forum stuff like this. The status quo, is the status quo, and as far as I can see its been like this for years and years and years, so I do not seen what's changed (in the last 5 years at least) to warrant a change. And I'm sure that this isn't a case of change-for-change-sake thing.
Avatars is another related subject - BM is unusual in not allowing them and I understand in the past when horsepower was a problem why you didn't have them - but 99% of the t'internet forums do - it's all part of providing a rich environment for people to interact in - and even with the less usual situation here where people actually meet in RealLife(tm) at City - that' worth having.
My two-penneth. I'll shut up now and go count the replies to my POLL post... unless its been deleted...
I'm just an average punter whose only been on here for 5 years, but I am often bemused why forum administrators (not just on here) tend to meddle with basic forum stuff like this. The status quo, is the status quo, and as far as I can see its been like this for years and years and years, so I do not seen what's changed (in the last 5 years at least) to warrant a change. And I'm sure that this isn't a case of change-for-change-sake thing.
You sort of answered your own question there mate