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No, never would we have had that twat playing for us, never.Johnsonontheleft said:
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Post Match Thread: Barca vs City
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Chi-town blues
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Another footballing lesson ..nothing new.
Mr Ed (The Stables)
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BobKowalski said:Johnsonontheleft said:Without FFP we would have started that game with Aguero, Suarez & possibly Messi upfront. Just think about that for a second.
FFP has had the desired effect of crippling our progress. We can buy Wilfried Bonys for £30m but what we need are galacticos to level the playing field. A Bale, a Ronaldo, a Neymar, a Suarez. We simply can't compete anymore & it's criminal.
PSG had the same FFP restrictions. How are they doing?
Totally agree FFP is a red herring. We have a wank manager simples!!
sam-caddick
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BobKowalski said:Johnsonontheleft said:Without FFP we would have started that game with Aguero, Suarez & possibly Messi upfront. Just think about that for a second.
FFP has had the desired effect of crippling our progress. We can buy Wilfried Bonys for £30m but what we need are galacticos to level the playing field. A Bale, a Ronaldo, a Neymar, a Suarez. We simply can't compete anymore & it's criminal.
PSG had the same FFP restrictions. How are they doing?
This.
Blaming everything on FFP is a myth.
Spending 32m on the likes Mangala is what has cost City.
The Mail had an article saying we have spent over 300m since winning the league in 2012 yet only Fernandinho replacing Barry and Demichelis replacing Lescott have changed in the side.
Shocking!
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This is the greatest City team (last 4 or 5 years) in history yet they get so much of a slating on Bluemoon.
It used to be that the team didn't deserve the fans.
It used to be that the team didn't deserve the fans.
Rickaccurate said:I liked the 4-3-1-1
I'm really not the biggest fan of this formation.
MeatnSpudsMCFC
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We'll always fall short as long as we keep pretending that the likes of Milner, Nasri and Dzeko are good enough for where we want to go.
Hart, Kompany, Toure, Zabaleta, Silva and Aguero were our "core". Toure has simply aged and Kompany is simply going through a bad patch. All being well, with the FFP restrictions lifted soon, we can buy suitable replacements this time round. We can't afford to be making mediocre deals. Such as letting Tevez go and replacing him with Jovetic/Negredo. Barry out and Garcia in was also another major clanger.
Ideally, we can start pushing through some youth products through aswell.
I still find it hilarious how we put up with Clichy/Kolarov. Doesn't it get said almost every month how we need to replace them?
Hart, Kompany, Toure, Zabaleta, Silva and Aguero were our "core". Toure has simply aged and Kompany is simply going through a bad patch. All being well, with the FFP restrictions lifted soon, we can buy suitable replacements this time round. We can't afford to be making mediocre deals. Such as letting Tevez go and replacing him with Jovetic/Negredo. Barry out and Garcia in was also another major clanger.
Ideally, we can start pushing through some youth products through aswell.
I still find it hilarious how we put up with Clichy/Kolarov. Doesn't it get said almost every month how we need to replace them?
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Cakers said:Rickaccurate said:I liked the 4-3-1-1
I'm really not the biggest fan of this formation.
Even Alan Ball could do better !!!
johnbmcr
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He wasLuck95 said:Hart was immense tonight, well played joe
said in the press con we need to learn lessons would be good if the exact things we need to do were set out otherwise its just a convienent platitude to kil the post mortem maybe acknowledging our areas for improvement publicly might be the start of the learning process
sam-caddick said:BobKowalski said:Johnsonontheleft said:Without FFP we would have started that game with Aguero, Suarez & possibly Messi upfront. Just think about that for a second.
FFP has had the desired effect of crippling our progress. We can buy Wilfried Bonys for £30m but what we need are galacticos to level the playing field. A Bale, a Ronaldo, a Neymar, a Suarez. We simply can't compete anymore & it's criminal.
PSG had the same FFP restrictions. How are they doing?
This.
Blaming everything on FFP is a myth.
Spending 32m on the likes Mangala is what has cost City.
The Mail had an article saying we have spent over 300m since winning the league in 2012 yet only Fernandinho replacing Barry and Demichelis replacing Lescott have changed in the side.
Shocking!
SHocking indeed
Mcfchamps
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honestly. kun looked embarrassed to play with us poor lad.
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Mcfchamps said:honestly. kun looked embarrassed to play with us poor lad.
I suspect that may have something to do with the fact he fucked up the penalty.
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He wasn't great himself, maybe he was just embarrassed ?Mcfchamps said:honestly. kun looked embarrassed to play with us poor lad.
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We had a go without leaving our arses showing to much. Barca are on form with probably only Bayern as the single team that is better right now.
I know we want to be one of these teams and we very nearly are. We did have a go though tonight and came up a bit short.
Even if we had all the players we want (besides barca players ofc) and tactics just right we would not be clear favourite against such teams.
We WILL (read: should) be back next season and hopefully with lessons learned.
We lost against a good team that has just found form. a few niggly individual errors/fuck ups aside we did alright tonight.
I can handle that !
I know we want to be one of these teams and we very nearly are. We did have a go though tonight and came up a bit short.
Even if we had all the players we want (besides barca players ofc) and tactics just right we would not be clear favourite against such teams.
We WILL (read: should) be back next season and hopefully with lessons learned.
We lost against a good team that has just found form. a few niggly individual errors/fuck ups aside we did alright tonight.
I can handle that !
buckshot
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The sad fact is that City have never hit their stride this season. Moral victories and a few individual performances don't make up for the fact that, with the money that's been spend, City need to be much closer to moving forward in the CL.
malg
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That's a fair summation.buckshot said:The sad fact is that City have never hit their stride this season. Moral victories and a few individual performances don't make up for the fact that, with the money that's been spend, City need to be much closer to moving forward in the CL.
I don't accept the theory that we'll be back next year "having learned from tonight". For goodness sake, we played Barcelona last year and didn't seem to learn then. We've played Bayern six times, Real Madrid, Dortmund among others in this competition since we got in and still don't look like we can set up properly against a top side.
Barca were better than us tonight, no doubt. But at least make it difficult for them, frustrate them, have some sort of approach that might contain them. It was embarrassing at times in the first half tonight.
Barca were better than us tonight, no doubt. But at least make it difficult for them, frustrate them, have some sort of approach that might contain them. It was embarrassing at times in the first half tonight.
The only way we'll improve in this competition is with a semi-overhaul. Retaining the best of our squad and adding quite a few energetic young talents of high quality. Will take more than one window to complete but we should do as much as is financially possible next summer. But then the tactics must also be right. I thought our formation was OK today, it's just that Yaya is an invisible man on the defensive front so we were left with one holding midfielder again against the best strikeforce in the world right now. And going forward we're just simply too slow and don't have enough variety. Milner, Navas, Sagna and Kolarov ALL wasted crosses from excellent positions which could have unlocked them before our missed penalty.
With our resources, it shouldn't really be rocket science and we should have done much better in this competition, but every year we've had the same issues and met our end too early. I have a feeling next year will finally start to see some genuine improvement if we land some of the better players we've been linked with, most of whom fit the right profile. Build a hungrier team and a more balanced squad (less emphasis on hording forwards, which we should have learned by now - 2 on the bench tonight, 1 left out of the squad) and we'll be better for it.
With our resources, it shouldn't really be rocket science and we should have done much better in this competition, but every year we've had the same issues and met our end too early. I have a feeling next year will finally start to see some genuine improvement if we land some of the better players we've been linked with, most of whom fit the right profile. Build a hungrier team and a more balanced squad (less emphasis on hording forwards, which we should have learned by now - 2 on the bench tonight, 1 left out of the squad) and we'll be better for it.
Jullarkey said:I don't accept the theory that we'll be back next year "having learned from tonight". For goodness sake, we played Barcelona last year and didn't seem to learn then. We've played Bayern six times, Real Madrid, Dortmund among others in this competition since we got in and still don't look like we can set up properly against a top side.
Barca were better than us tonight, no doubt. But at least make it difficult for them, frustrate them, have some sort of approach that might contain them. It was embarrassing at times in the first half tonight.
9 games , 6 must win to see if we will be back next year.