pominoz
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The Flash said:
Most that know me think i am a socialist/communist nutcase, but when groups want to blow me and mine to bits, i get a bit uppity.
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Predator drones
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Most that know me think i am a socialist/communist nutcase, but when groups want to blow me and mine to bits, i get a bit uppity.
mindmyp's_n_q's
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We are not going to solve the problem by trying to kill our way out of it.
Josh Blue
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blueinsa said:Between 2003 and 2010, suicide bomb attacks accounted for the deaths of over 12000 innocent Iraqi civilians whilst claiming the lives of just over 200 servicemen.
That to me says it all and yes, the use of drone attacks or pin pointed missile strikes may well account for the unfortunate and tragic deaths of a small number of innocent civilians, the real culprits and mass murderers continue to be the insurgents and terrorists.
In the 'war on terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan 158,000 to 202,000 INNOCENT civilians were killed. Dead. Gone forever. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters. Real people just the same as 200 thousand people in England or the U.S.
Are you comfortable with them statistics? What did they die for? Was it worth it?
<a class="postlink" href="http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians-killed-and-wounded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians ... nd-wounded</a>
BoyBlue_1985
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Josh Blue said:pominoz said:Josh Blue said:You do realise the U.S has a very long history of sponsoring terrorism? Lately it had been Libya and Syria.
Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.
That's funny because some murderous dictators are supported by the U.S but others overthrown?
We are going a little of the point from Predator drones but interesting debate nonetheless.
The Libyan 'Rebels' are Islamic extremists, the same as the ones in Syria, Yemen, Pakistan etc. So whats the difference?
I'm not saying Gaddafi wasn't a terrible person but Libya was a much safer country under him than it is now.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XorKTwkFPDU[/youtube]
A video about Libya under Gaddafi if you have the time.
Blimey its obvious the world didn't want the middle east to be stable because a stable area means they could work together and cut the west out. The US, China, etc where never going to allow that to happen
Skashion
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Some people don't care about dead innocents as long as they are not white, or not from their own country.Josh Blue said:blueinsa said:Between 2003 and 2010, suicide bomb attacks accounted for the deaths of over 12000 innocent Iraqi civilians whilst claiming the lives of just over 200 servicemen.
That to me says it all and yes, the use of drone attacks or pin pointed missile strikes may well account for the unfortunate and tragic deaths of a small number of innocent civilians, the real culprits and mass murderers continue to be the insurgents and terrorists.
In the 'war on terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan 158,000 to 202,000 INNOCENT civilians were killed. Dead. Gone forever. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters. Real people just the same as 200 thousand people in England or the U.S.
Are you comfortable with them statistics? What did they die for? Was it worth it?
<a class="postlink" href="http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians-killed-and-wounded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians ... nd-wounded</a>
Josh Blue
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pominoz said:The Flash said:pominoz said:Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.
Bloody hell, I best warn Rascal...
Most that know me think i am a socialist/communist nutcase, but when groups want to blow me and mine to bits, i get a bit uppity.
You are not at risk from Islamic extremists btw. You are more likely to be killed by your local police. Do not worry I can nearly guarantee you won't even be in contact with any Islamic extremists. KEEP CALM YOU ARE NOT AT RISK!
pominoz
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Josh Blue said:pominoz said:Josh Blue said:You do realise the U.S has a very long history of sponsoring terrorism? Lately it had been Libya and Syria.
Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.
That's funny because some murderous dictators are supported by the U.S but others overthrown?
We are going a little of the point from Predator drones but interesting debate nonetheless.
The Libyan 'Rebels' are Islamic extremists, the same as the ones in Syria, Yemen, Pakistan etc. So whats the difference?
I'm not saying Gaddafi wasn't a terrible person but Libya was a much safer country under him than it is now.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XorKTwkFPDU[/youtube]
A video about Libya under Gaddafi if you have the time.
Libya may well have been alright compared to African standards, i doubt that the occupants of flight 103 would give a fuck.
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blueinsa
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Skashion said:Some people don't care about dead innocents as long as they are not white, or not from their own country.Josh Blue said:blueinsa said:Between 2003 and 2010, suicide bomb attacks accounted for the deaths of over 12000 innocent Iraqi civilians whilst claiming the lives of just over 200 servicemen.
That to me says it all and yes, the use of drone attacks or pin pointed missile strikes may well account for the unfortunate and tragic deaths of a small number of innocent civilians, the real culprits and mass murderers continue to be the insurgents and terrorists.
In the 'war on terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan 158,000 to 202,000 INNOCENT civilians were killed. Dead. Gone forever. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters. Real people just the same as 200 thousand people in England or the U.S.
Are you comfortable with them statistics? What did they die for? Was it worth it?
<a class="postlink" href="http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians-killed-and-wounded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians ... nd-wounded</a>
Ridiculous thing to suggest Skash, especially if its directed at me.
Im just pointing out that to this day, the vast majority of poor innocent civilian muslim victims are murdered in cold blood by their fellow muslim brothers, all in the name of jihad and the war against the west.
To try and ignore that fact or to suggest otherwise is folly.
Skashion said:Some people don't care about dead innocents as long as they are not white, or not from their own country.Josh Blue said:blueinsa said:Between 2003 and 2010, suicide bomb attacks accounted for the deaths of over 12000 innocent Iraqi civilians whilst claiming the lives of just over 200 servicemen.
That to me says it all and yes, the use of drone attacks or pin pointed missile strikes may well account for the unfortunate and tragic deaths of a small number of innocent civilians, the real culprits and mass murderers continue to be the insurgents and terrorists.
In the 'war on terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan 158,000 to 202,000 INNOCENT civilians were killed. Dead. Gone forever. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters. Real people just the same as 200 thousand people in England or the U.S.
Are you comfortable with them statistics? What did they die for? Was it worth it?
<a class="postlink" href="http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians-killed-and-wounded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians ... nd-wounded</a>
This is a reason. But another reason is that no country have the guts to stand up to the US. If they had stood together, they could have repelled any US invasion.<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:40 pm --<br /><br />
blueinsa said:Skashion said:Some people don't care about dead innocents as long as they are not white, or not from their own country.Josh Blue said:In the 'war on terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan 158,000 to 202,000 INNOCENT civilians were killed. Dead. Gone forever. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters. Real people just the same as 200 thousand people in England or the U.S.
Are you comfortable with them statistics? What did they die for? Was it worth it?
<a class="postlink" href="http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians-killed-and-wounded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://costsofwar.org/article/civilians ... nd-wounded</a>
Ridiculous thing to suggest Skash, especially if its directed at me.
Im just pointing out that to this day, the vast majority of poor innocent civilian muslim victims are murdered in cold blood by their fellow muslim brothers, all in the name of jihad and the war against the west.
To try and ignore that fact or to suggest otherwise is folly.
Yes the 12000 you quoted to the 100's of thousands by the US and its allies. Vast majority indeed
Josh Blue
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pominoz said:Josh Blue said:pominoz said:Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.
That's funny because some murderous dictators are supported by the U.S but others overthrown?
We are going a little of the point from Predator drones but interesting debate nonetheless.
The Libyan 'Rebels' are Islamic extremists, the same as the ones in Syria, Yemen, Pakistan etc. So whats the difference?
I'm not saying Gaddafi wasn't a terrible person but Libya was a much safer country under him than it is now.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XorKTwkFPDU[/youtube]
A video about Libya under Gaddafi if you have the time.
Libya may well have been alright compared to African standards, i doubt that the occupants of flight 103 would give a fuck.
That doesn't really have any relevance mate.