Premier League Champions Calculation

There are quite a few dies that run end of season predicted tables and they are generally quite accurate. They are based on current team strength, current points and the difficulty of the remaining games.

The most accurate will update soon so ill post it when it does but the others already have and on average 80 points wins the league.
 
cleavers said:
Stoned Rose said:
IMO 80 pts will win it.

We have 44 points at the moment so need 36 more.

We have 9 home and 9 away games left.

I think we'll win every home game which will give us a further 27 pts (taking us to 71 pts ).

Meaning we 'll need 9 points from 9 away games to be champions. Which is 3 wins .

Opinion only.
I said it last week they key to winning the league this year will be winning the mini league of the top 8 teams, at the moment we are well ahead, BUT we haven't played many away yet, so our away form in these games will be crucial.

We need to beat Chelsea to leave that pair of games neutral, draw or win the rest, and we'll be champions imho, draws are good because our totals against the rest will be 4 points each, except Chelsea 3, and would give us a minimum of 27 points from these 14 games (7 wins, 6 draws, 1 defeat), and 6 of the other 7 would have taken only 1 point off us.

However I think we'll win at least 2 away, and draw 2 or 3 others, giving us 29/30 points if we beat Chelsea.

The rest of the games should then take care of themselves really, though almost everyone will suffer the odd setback, be it a surprise home draw like both arsenal yesterday, and us last week nearly managed, or a surprise away defeat, though I'm hoping we've had all ours now.

I think 85+ will win it, so we still need to more or less match the first half of the season, by no means certain, but certainly very possible.


If we match our last 18 league results, that will be
Win 13
Lose 3
Draw 2

Total 41 points,which added to our current 44, gives a gross total of 85

IMO, to become Champions we certainly need to win at least five more on the road
 
It's such a tight season this year with about 5 sides looking good for that top spot so I think this year we'll need more points to win the league than normal.
Just focus on the results as they come and the table will sort itself out
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Dynamo11 said:
It's such a tight season this year with about 5 sides looking good for that top spot so I think this year we'll need more points to win the league than normal.
I'm sorry, but that assertion pretty much flies in the face of mathematical reality.

Not at all, what I'm implying is we need to atleast get a point from our rivals and win most other games.
 
All wins at home and at least 4 wins away means 83+ points.
 
Decided to do our head to heads on games we've played, so Arsenal comes out as this:

City P12 W10 D0 L2 GS: 41 GC: 16 GD: +25 Pts: 30.
Arsenal P12 W9 D2 L1 GS: 28 GC: 13 GD: +15 Pts: 29.

So we're 2 points ahead on a run of games that was West Ham(A), West Brom(A), Spurs(H), Swansea(A), Sunderland(A), Norwich(H), Liverpool(H), Hull(H), Fulham(A), Everton(H), Cardiff(A) as well as our home game v them, so taking that out they'd be 2 points ahead, but to even that up points wise they'd have to beat us in the return game.

Which means from the 9 games we've played that they haven't we achieved.

P8 W4 D2 L2 GS: 17 GC: 8 GD: +9 Pts: 14.

So we've dropped 10 points the run of games that is Swansea(H), Southampton(A), Stoke(A), Newcastle(H), Man Utd(H), Palace(H), Aston Villa(A) and Chelsea(A), so you could see that as either an opportunity for Arsenal to get an advantage on us or some equally as tough games.

Meanwhile the 8 games they've played they've achieved:

P8 W5 D1 L2 GS: 11 GC: 5 GD: +6 Pts: 16.

That run of games is Villa(H), Cardiff(H), Chelsea(H), Palace(A), Man Utd(A), Newcastle(A), Southampton(H), Stoke(H). So they've dropped 8 points in a run of 5 home games, and it shows the importance of winning home games that you should like Villa which they lost, which is a chance to claw back some points. We have to go away and keep winning, all 3 of them are games we should look to win, and in reality, if we want to be champs we should be nailing 24 from 24 in that period.

Games neither of us have played: Everton(A), Fulham(H), Liverpool(A), Norwich(A), Sunderland(H), Spurs(A), West Brom(H), West Ham(H). 3 tricky away games in there that could be the difference between title winners and CL qualifiers...

So in conclusion I think they have the slightly tougher run because they've had Southampton, Stoke, Chelsea at home whereas we've been to them, so we'll see if they do any better, particularly adding in the CL and the 3 tough away games we both have to play.

Meanwhile in terms of Chelsea here's our head to head in games we've played:

City P9 W5 D2 L2 GS: 14 GC: 7 GD: +7 Pts: 17.
Chelsea P9 W8 D0 L1 GS: 21 GC: 9 GD: +12 Pts: 24.

So Chelsea are 7 points better off on same games played, which were West Ham(A), Swansea(H), Sunderland(A), Stoke(A), Liverpool(H), Hull(H), Crystal Palace(H), Southampton(A) and the game between us at Stamford Bridge, showing that it was a costly error at the end of that game and that we must win the return fixture. They have also gone and got results at Sunderland and So'ton and whilst losing at Stoke we could only draw so didn't really gain much back.

For us to be ahead we must have done better in the fixtures we've played that they haven't, which were:

City P11 W9 D0 L2 GS: 44 GC: 17 GD: +27 Pts: 27.

Those games were West Brom(A), Spurs(H), Swansea(A), Norwich(H), Newcastle(H), Fulham(A), Everton(H), Cardiff(A), Aston Villa(A), Arsenal(H), Man Utd(H). Those slips at Cardiff and Villa may prove costly but Chelsea to match us would have to win those to afford not winning 2 of their big home games, there are a lot of big ties in there but Chelsea still haven't suffered a home league defeat under Jose so they must feel confident. In comparison:

Chelsea P11 W5 D4 L2 GS: 17 GC: 10 GD: +7 Pts: 19.

Those games were West Brom(H), Spurs(A), Southampton(H), Norwich(A), Newcastle(A), Man Utd(A), Fulham(H), Everton(A), Cardiff(H), Aston Villa(H), Arsenal(A).

So they've had a much tougher run than us especially away, dropping 14 possible points. Their biggest slip was probably at home to West Brom, but they have a chance to improve on our tally by beating Cardiff and Villa away which we failed to do.

Games neither of us have played: West Ham(H), Sunderland(H), Liverpool(A), Hull(A), Crystal Palace(A). So it could come down to some tricky aways.

If I look at Arsenal's run-in I reckon they may get 35 points, which would leave them on 80 points. Chelsea I reckon could get 42 points, which would take them to 85 points, leaving us needing 41 or 42 depending on GD, which would mean we would have to win every home game (27) and getting 5 wins away, meaning 5 wins from Spurs, Everton, Arsenal, United, Norwich, Palace, Hull, Liverpool, Newcastle, meaning essentially we have to go to a big boy and win and beat the Geordies, Norwich, Palace and Hull.

Either way I think it will be extremely tight and probably go down to the last day, as I don't think Chelsea are going to do much worse if not better than us on the fixtures we've played that they haven't, I'd make them favourites 2bh.
 
Dynamo11 said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Dynamo11 said:
It's such a tight season this year with about 5 sides looking good for that top spot so I think this year we'll need more points to win the league than normal.
I'm sorry, but that assertion pretty much flies in the face of mathematical reality.

Not at all, what I'm implying is we need to atleast get a point from our rivals and win most other games.
If five clubs are looking good for top spot (as oppose to the usual two) then by definition they will be taking points off each other, meaning the winning points total will almost certainly be lower.
 
We gave CFC and AFC a headstart with our catastrophic away results in the first 3 months of the season - I don't see that happening again
 
I can see Chelsea getting 85 pts and for us to achieve the same points or better to win the league I believe we need to beat them at our place (86-88 points if we don't), win the remainder of our games at home and at least draw with arsenal away ( as i can see them getting 82 pts) plus acquire other away points along the way.
Chelsea are sitting pretty at the moment just 1 point behind us they have played, utd, Newcastle, Everton, Tottenham and Arsenal away all of which we still have to do. Mourinho probably cant believe his luck that he has managed to hang in there with his strikers performing so badly.
we should actually be 7 to 9 pts better off at this moment in time from those 4 away defeats I really hope they don't come back to bite us on the arse.
this might just be me with my positive or pessimistic predictions of the remaining fixtures though so i do hope i am wrong
 

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