Protests against prorogation of Parliament

[lust overlord]

You are ascribing my motivations for wanting to remain to those who have expressed a view based on their own econonic self-interest. That wasn't my main motivation for wishing to remain, although it's right to say it was a significant factor.

I've never viewed our membership of the EU purely in terms of what the UK, and therefore by extension, me, can get out of it. I've never resented the '£350 million a week' in negative terms, representing as it does, about £4 a week out of my pocket; I've also never been concerned about the odd rule around commerce being determined elsewhere, because I've cast my eyes upon a continent previously at perpetual war, and a collection of nation states where travel between them was previously much more cumbersome and unwieldy and I've considered what direction the human race needs to travel in if it's going to survive and I've arrived at the conclusion that four quid a week is a price worth paying for all that, even if it means enduring straight bananas.

So, I believe my perspective on this issue isn't entirely grounded in selfishness, but I'm happy to be corrected on that, and I'm equally happy for you to rebut my foregoing assertion and explain to me why deciding to leave the EU isn't an act grounded in national selfishness.

Johnson's a ****, but £332k is neither here nor there in the scheme of things.

Virtually everyone is selfish to some degree,the vast majority of whom will be unselfish too.
Those not in the vast majority will have names like Boris Johnson,Ian Duncan Smith.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Virtually everyone is selfish to some degree,the vast majority of whom will be unselfish too.
Those not in the vast majority will have names like Boris Johnson,Ian Duncan Smith.

Yes, it's an interesting philosophical point - is there any truly unselfish act? - but I hope I'd covered that off sufficiently in my post. Certainly, I'd say that the reasons I've presented are less selfish than 'taking back control' etc...

 

[lust overlord]

Yes, it's an interesting philosophical point - is there any truly unselfish act? - but I hope I'd covered that off sufficiently in my post. Certainly, I'd say that the reasons I've presented are less selfish than 'taking back control' etc...

I enjoy giving to charity and being unselfish.
My enjoyment therefore makes me selfish.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I enjoy giving to charity and being unselfish.
My enjoyment therefore makes me selfish.

I think the only example I can think of is people like our incredible fire service who go into burning buildings on order to try and save others, but even that is borne out of a contract of employment that includes reward in exchange for the obligation to try and save lives, and to a lesser extent, property.

 

[lust overlord]

I think the only example I can think of is people like our incredible fire service who go into burning buildings on order to try and save others, but even that is borne out of a contract of employment that includes reward in exchange for the obligation to try and save lives, and to a lesser extent, property.

The adrenaline rush of attempting something dangerous,being someone who is seen to matter and make a positive difference.
All ego related and could be argued"selfish" even though they can be at the same time selfless acts.

 

[hilts]

How strange!

Almost like they are praying.

Oh no they’re coming haha

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

Fuck that, why don't you just let a load of convicts out of jail and arm them and give them uniforms?

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[George Hannah]

Yes, it's an interesting philosophical point - is there any truly unselfish act? - but I hope I'd covered that off sufficiently in my post. Certainly, I'd say that the reasons I've presented are less selfish than 'taking back control' etc...

Required reading for all the serious Remainer enthusiasts on here

 

[Neville Kneville]

Speaking about Grenfell and water cannons, why didn't they give it to the fire department seems like they might be able to use em?

Granted, he wouldn't be able to motivate fire fighters to spray protesters from the streets.

I imagine that changing the rules re using water cannons & much worse stuff, on the public, will be on the list Reece Mogg has given Boris.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I enjoy giving to charity and being unselfish.
My enjoyment therefore makes me selfish.

Basically you subscribe to the theory that there is no truly altruistic gesture.
The Selfish Gene. - Richard Dawkins