True, but the problem with football is you get an emotional bond, one that's built up over years and years making it a little different than other products. Being priced out of something you love is a lot harder than having to make do with 'mothers own' brands from the supermarket.
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PSG ticket prices - Protest options v West Brom.
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RichardDunneOwnGoal
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Charming
You want to try reading some of your own bollox then.
People like you, people like me!!!
You know fuck all about me but want to come on here belittling me and calling me a clown !!
Reading your judgments on everyone who has a slightly different view from you seems to me you form opinions about people without even taking into considerations there opinions even when they have supported the principle, ffs me Mam used to say something about causing a argument in a empty room ; I know what she meant now.
You come across as a bit of a arrogant tit in my opinion , "look at me fighting the good cause on behalf of all you poor guys out there"
What a load of shite..
What have you done to fight price increase all these years!! I bet it's a big fuck all
Now you want to slate fans because they don't agree with dragging the club through the shit..
I can honestly say that I'm more of a opinion now that not alining myself with people like you is defenetley the best way for me and I'm less interested in your plight now then I ever was and think if I sat next to you I'd be happy paying a extra £20 per game if it meant pricing you out.
It's a shame the whole cause is being dragged down by people like yourself ..
I took into account your opinions, and that's how I formed my opinion of you. And you're only reinforcing it here.
You verbatim said it was simply the "way of the world" that people are priced out, and made out that the only reason people are kicking up a stink now is because they're being directly affected/priced out.
As I said, that isn't true. I can still afford to go. And yes, people like me have been trying to bring light to this issue for years, and the harm it's doing to our support, while people like you have been trying to gloss over it. As you're doing here. The post I responded to was full of personal slights and deliberate mischaracterisations of anyone who was supportive of a protest, and once more that's your go to default position here.
You say you support national action, but in the same breath say it's a nonissue and the way of the world.
You don't know whether you're coming or going.
National action begins with your own club. That's the point that has been made countless times in this thread.
The only people outright dismissing opinions are clowns like you who can't see past your own nose. I haven't dismissed anyone's opinion, I've fairly and properly engaged the vast majority of people I've disagreed with in this thread, and there's been some good discussion. I only responded to your post the way I did as it got under my skin given how outright dismissive it was of this entire issue, and given how liberally you were throwing that bucket of tar about.
Like I said, I think you're a clown, in fact the feeling's mutual re the tosser remark, but you're entitled to your opinion on this topic. And I wouldn't stop you from holding it.
I think you're wrong, but we're free to disagree.
I think the fact that you're happy to pay circa 40% more on a ticket just in the hope that it would personally keep me out says more about you than it does me. I note you again refer to it as "my plight" as if it's something specific to me rather than all of us, bizarre. Clearly you're unaffected though, which is why you feel the way you do.
I'm an "enemy of our club" apparently though, what does that make you pal? An enemy of our support and an ally of bean counters like Soriano and Glick?
You need to get it out of your head that open discussion of this discontent re ticket prices equates to a spoilt child kicking their toys out of the pram. Way too many blues like you who fundamentally believe we have no right to complain about anything, even something as pivotal to this club's future as ticket pricing, because of our great turnaround in fortunes due to the investment of Sheikh Mansour.
Blues who think the way you do are nothing more than useful idiots for Soriano.
Prestwich_Blue
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No one's suggesting we get it for nothing. People recognise that up to the last few years, ticket money was an important part of the revenue stream but it isn't any more. As I've said before, we'll be getting something like £10m for that PSG game before we sell a ticket or kick a ball. So the £2m we might make on the night is really neither here nor there.look, football has gone dear. end of. they are providing a product, if we want that product we pay, just like in any other walk of life. its not just our club or our owner. I bet though there are many a fan at other clubs would kill for we have, for what we watch and the competitions we play in year in year out. doesn't make it any cheaper but its the truth. I pay up albeit grudgingly cos It was still dear when we were fucking shite.
Let's look at it in terms of your business. Suppose one of the carpet firms you deal with offer you a huge bonus if you buy a certain amount from them. As you get close to the deadline, you're a bit short of the target so what do you do? You order the rest you need to in order to trigger the bonus and flog it cheap because you've got the bonus and need to shift what you've ordered quickly as it's costing you money to store it. Or if you can't store it, you do a special offer for that product selling at cost or less until you hit the target and get the bonus. And by shifting it cheap, you get loads of new customers who come back for more stuff at full price later on. That's sensible business isn't it?
malg
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You pay because you can, it might be grudgingly, but you still can afford it. A lot of fans who maybe dont earn as much, football is becoming a sport that they can't afford, and in years to come it will get worse. I genuinely believe that they're trying to force certain 'types' of fan out. The price increases we've had year on year are ridiculous, and certainly not needed in terms of FFP, or the bottom line - we're a club who aren't struggling, but they still increase the ticket prices. In fact, weren't we one of the clubs who voted against the £30 for the away ticket? I reckon that's because they see it as the start of something they don't want to see - price control.look, football has gone dear. end of. they are providing a product, if we want that product we pay, just like in any other walk of life. its not just our club or our owner. I bet though there are many a fan at other clubs would kill for we have, for what we watch and the competitions we play in year in year out. doesn't make it any cheaper but its the truth. I pay up albeit grudgingly cos It was still dear when we were fucking shite.
Centurions
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Not only does he have a 'Word of the day' calendar (you can tell by how he drags big words into his posts at seemingly random moments, he especially likes 'empathy') he's also on the wum. I'm surprised a mod hasn't binned him off yet although he must be walking a tightrope by now.Charming
You want to try reading some of your own bollox then.
People like you, people like me!!!
You know fuck all about me but want to come on here belittling me and calling me a clown !!
Reading your judgments on everyone who has a slightly different view from you seems to me you form opinions about people without even taking into considerations there opinions even when they have supported the principle, ffs me Mam used to say something about causing a argument in a empty room ; I know what she meant now.
You come across as a bit of a arrogant tit in my opinion , "look at me fighting the good cause on behalf of all you poor guys out there"
What a load of shite..
What have you done to fight price increase all these years!! I bet it's a big fuck all
Now you want to slate fans because they don't agree with dragging the club through the shit..
I can honestly say that I'm more of a opinion now that not alining myself with people like you is defenetley the best way for me and I'm less interested in your plight now then I ever was and think if I sat next to you I'd be happy paying a extra £20 per game if it meant pricing you out.
It's a shame the whole cause is being dragged down by people like yourself ..
blingy
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I took into account your opinions, and that's how I formed my opinion of you. And you're only reinforcing it here.
You verbatim said it was simply the "way of the world" that people are priced out, and made out that the only reason people are kicking up a stink now is because they're being directly affected/priced out.
As I said, that isn't true. I can still afford to go. And yes, people like me have been trying to bring light to this issue for years, and the harm it's doing to our support, while people like you have been trying to gloss over it. As you're doing here. The post I responded to was full of personal slights and deliberate mischaracterisations of anyone who was supportive of a protest, and once more that's your go to default position here.
You say you support national action, but in the same breath say it's a nonissue and the way of the world.
You don't know whether you're coming or going.
National action begins with your own club. That's the point that has been made countless times in this thread.
The only people outright dismissing opinions are clowns like you who can't see past your own nose. I haven't dismissed anyone's opinion, I've fairly and properly engaged the vast majority of people I've disagreed with in this thread, and there's been some good discussion. I only responded to your post the way I did as it got under my skin given how outright dismissive it was of this entire issue, and given how liberally you were throwing that bucket of tar about.
Like I said, I think you're a clown, in fact the feeling's mutual re the tosser remark, but you're entitled to your opinion on this topic. And I wouldn't stop you from holding it.
I think you're wrong, but we're free to disagree.
I think the fact that you're happy to pay circa 40% more on a ticket just in the hope that it would personally keep me out says more about you than it does me. I note you again refer to it as "my plight" as if it's something specific to me rather than all of us, bizarre. Clearly you're unaffected though, which is why you feel the way you do.
I'm an "enemy of our club" apparently though, what does that make you pal? An enemy of our support and an ally of bean counters like Soriano and Glick?
You need to get it out of your head that open discussion of this discontent re ticket prices equates to a spoilt child kicking their toys out of the pram. Way too many blues like you who fundamentally believe we have no right to complain about anything, even something as pivotal to this club's future as ticket pricing, because of our great turnaround in fortunes due to the investment of Sheikh Mansour.
Blues who think the way you do are nothing more than useful idiots for Soriano.
I'm not too arsed what you think about me personally as I know you know zip about me, but imo you at trying to bully your opinion onto others that have a difrent stance then you to a point where you are billitalng people and even name calling !! What dose that say about you??
I think you see yourself as a bit of a activist but I think you'd be more suited to Isis or the likes and stay out of democracy as you don't seem to have the skills of persuasion needed, this is how I know you have done nowt good in the cause for tickiting prices in the past although you claim to be fighting for it for years.
I'm prity sure that the other nodding dogs /clowns and what other put downs turms you have used to belittle fellow blues , (yes fellow blues), will have had them flocking to to your cause and swelling the ranks
I wouldn't go running for president of fsf In fact I'd doubt they would want you even campaigning for them with your attitude to those who you disagree with..
I have my opinion about ticket prices, I'm open to discussion , persuasion , reason, disagreement , what I'm not open to is name calling or bullying or being judged by some activist because they think there opinion out ways everyone else's who dose not agree with them.
As iv said I'm determined now after the short exchange with you to not back any kind of campaign and I know to my detriment this says more about me then you, but maybe you want to have a look at yourself and think maybe you are doing the campaign more harm then good, as some that I have seen you have a go at including myself, seem to be quite nutrel on the subject, posabley could be swaid to back something there comfertable with but maybe now feel after a Encounter with your good-self that they would rather boil ther heads.
I wish all the supporters out there all the best of luck in bringing ticket prices down as a £ in my pocket is better then a £ anywhere else but would I happily pay £20 extra not to sit next to you ... Hell yes
Just thought of scenario whilst having my coffee
Campaigners turn up at the door- "will you be supporting x party in the coming vote"
"No I agree with some of you opinions but I'm not happy about the way you want to execute them"
"You clown , your nothing but a nodding dog for the other party, bla bla bla ! How about now will you be supporting us now"
"Erm what do you think "
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I'm not too arsed what you think about me personally as I know you know zip about me, but imo you at trying to bully your opinion onto others that have a difrent stance then you to a point where you are billitalng people and even name calling !! What dose that say about you??
I think you see yourself as a bit of a activist but I think you'd be more suited to Isis or the likes and stay out of democracy as you don't seem to have the skills of persuasion needed, this is how I know you have done nowt good in the cause for tickiting prices in the past although you claim to be fighting for it for years.
I'm prity sure that the other nodding dogs /clowns and what other put downs turms you have used to belittle fellow blues , (yes fellow blues), will have had them flocking to to your cause and swelling the ranks
I wouldn't go running for president of fsf In fact I'd doubt they would want you even campaigning for them with your attitude to those who you disagree with..
I have my opinion about ticket prices, I'm open to discussion , persuasion , reason, disagreement , what I'm not open to is name calling or bullying or being judged by some activist because they think there opinion out ways everyone else's who dose not agree with them.
As iv said I'm determined now after the short exchange with you to not back any kind of campaign and I know to my detriment this says more about me then you, but maybe you want to have a look at yourself and think maybe you are doing the campaign more harm then good, as some that I have seen you have a go at including myself, seem to be quite nutrel on the subject, posabley could be swaid to back something there comfertable with but maybe now feel after a Encounter with your good-self that they would rather boil ther heads.
I wish all the supporters out there all the best of luck in bringing ticket prices down as a £ in my pocket is better then a £ anywhere else but would I happily pay £20 extra not to sit next to you ... Hell yes
Just thought of scenario whilst having my coffee
Campaigners turn up at the door- "will you be supporting x party in the coming vote"
"No I agree with some of you opinions but I'm not happy about the way you want to execute them"
"You clown , your nothing but a nodding dog for the other party, bla bla bla ! How about now will you be supporting us now"
"Erm what do you think "
Get back in line, clown!!' I've said all along that I think we get value for money. However, I do think ST prices should - at very least - be frozen this year. Preferably reduced. I'm reserving judgement until ticket prices are announced because I don't think the club has done much wrong so far. Whatever happens I'll NEVER walk out on our players.
blingy
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Get back in line, clown!!' I've said all along that I think we get value for money. However, I do think ST prices should - at very least - be frozen this year. Preferably reduced. I'm reserving judgement until ticket prices are announced because I don't think the club has done much wrong so far. Whatever happens I'll NEVER walk out on our players.
Fk me I think it's time I invested in a red nose, baggy pants, long red shoes and consider running off to join billy smart...
Totally agree, I think we get great value for the product with my seats costing £33 per game between me and me lad and there being God knows how many cheeper in the new tier.. And on top of that I can pay it monthly ... I'm repeating myself but that to me represents great value
Totally think this is a knee jerk reaction to a shite season.
There are many arguments why tickets should be cheeper with all the money in football nowadays but that's not the issue in my eyes the issue is are we being ripped off and I disagree
I' think the people that are getting ripped off are those who are paying nearly as much if not more then actually going to a live game in Tv subscriptions. Of which I am also one.
It would be good publicity to freed prices for next year but nothing more and certainly not good business sense, but if they didn't and there was a small increase then I'd not complain to the point where I'd be walking out or protesting, and yes that's cos it won't put me in a position where I can't afford it. If it did I'd have to suck it up or cut back on the boozing or some of my other bad habits to find the £40 odd pound a month, and like most I'm sure I could swallow a extra £5 per month if needed.
Iv been in the position from the ages of 18 to 28 where I could only afford to pick and chose what games I went to, I didn't start organising protests because I wasn't working so it's not fair or I'm on a low income so let's protest, in fact there was nobody stamping there feet when there was thousands of us out of work but could not attend. Did it bother me ? No when I was financially stable I got my ST back and that's accent history.
Again repeating myself - would I be happy for price cuts? Hell yes, Would I be willing to drag my club through the mud to get it? Hell no
Would I back a national campaign that wouldn't shine the spot light of shit on our owners? Yes again..
I think people are looking at he Liverpool situation and thinking yea thats great ( and fuck me why would you want to mimic the scousers to begin with )
There situation is entirely difrent to ours, they have fallen from grace, perhaps see ther club not being run so well, and have something to complain about where as our situation seems to me to be totally different and looks to a lot of other fans as ungrateful little brats throwing there toys out. And it dose come across that way with some of the noise makers on here, Although I know that's not the case of many and many have genuine consernes of where prices are heading. If people can not genuinely afford the prices we have now then I do feel for them, but I don't think we are getting ripped off by our club and we are paying the going rate for the product
We are not Liverpool and I think the media will in some way make this a anti city thing, in fact in certain they will so totally disagree with giving them the amonition to do so, God knows they don't need much to have a go at us to begin with.
Would it be nice if everyone in the world had a job with decent pay and could go and watch there team , course it would, I'd be happy for that, then I'd be joining in with the complaints of can't get a ticket.
Just like to know where the protesters think the cut off price should be and would they be concerned about those who couldn't afford that price, as I know for a fact there are plenty out of work that couldn't afford £15 a ticket!! What about those people ... Big can of worms if you ask me and there are always going to be those who can't afford it one way or another, so what's the answer to that??
I'm more worried about the cue for the tram with all these early leavers, yep pure selfish reasons. I'm trying to get everyone to stay in the ground for a stop in protest
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I'm not too arsed what you think about me personally as I know you know zip about me, but imo you at trying to bully your opinion onto others that have a difrent stance then you to a point where you are billitalng people and even name calling !! What dose that say about you??
I think you see yourself as a bit of a activist but I think you'd be more suited to Isis or the likes and stay out of democracy as you don't seem to have the skills of persuasion needed, this is how I know you have done nowt good in the cause for tickiting prices in the past although you claim to be fighting for it for years.
I'm prity sure that the other nodding dogs /clowns and what other put downs turms you have used to belittle fellow blues , (yes fellow blues), will have had them flocking to to your cause and swelling the ranks
I wouldn't go running for president of fsf In fact I'd doubt they would want you even campaigning for them with your attitude to those who you disagree with..
I have my opinion about ticket prices, I'm open to discussion , persuasion , reason, disagreement , what I'm not open to is name calling or bullying or being judged by some activist because they think there opinion out ways everyone else's who dose not agree with them.
As iv said I'm determined now after the short exchange with you to not back any kind of campaign and I know to my detriment this says more about me then you, but maybe you want to have a look at yourself and think maybe you are doing the campaign more harm then good, as some that I have seen you have a go at including myself, seem to be quite nutrel on the subject, posabley could be swaid to back something there comfertable with but maybe now feel after a Encounter with your good-self that they would rather boil ther heads.
I wish all the supporters out there all the best of luck in bringing ticket prices down as a £ in my pocket is better then a £ anywhere else but would I happily pay £20 extra not to sit next to you ... Hell yes
Just thought of scenario whilst having my coffee
Campaigners turn up at the door- "will you be supporting x party in the coming vote"
"No I agree with some of you opinions but I'm not happy about the way you want to execute them"
"You clown , your nothing but a nodding dog for the other party, bla bla bla ! How about now will you be supporting us now"
"Erm what do you think "
Let's hope there are no Jihadi Jeans out in Paris!
blingy
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Let's hope there are no Jihadi Jeans out in Paris!
They the ones that people ask dose me bomb look big in these !!