FogBlueInSanFran
Well-Known Member
To be fair mate. When I was leaving Manchester for Canada all my mates used to bug me by saying, "They think the Ramones are punk over there".
Ha. That the Ramones effectively invented punk isn't a matter of opinion. It's historical fact. The term "punk" comes from the magazine that first featured them on the cover.
The Pistols et al don't happen without the Ramones and definitely not without the NY Dolls either -- Malcom McLaren managed them before the Pistols. And none of them likely happen without MC5. Find someplace for Iggy Pop and the Stooges too.
As good as the Pistols were they were an act. Now Wire -- there was (is) a band :)