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dave_blue12
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Doctors say no poison yet found in the system of long term Putin critic Alexei Navalny. Hmm...
Navalny invited to be treated in Germany but no word as to whether the Russians will allow that.
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Doctors say no poison yet found in the system of long term Putin critic Alexei Navalny.
Navalny invited to be treated in Germany but no word as to whether the Russians will allow that.
Did Putin borrow the Tory PR team for a weekend?
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west didsblue
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Just confirmed that the Russian opposition leader in hospital in Berlin was poisoned with Novichok. That's a reasonable clue what Putin's end game is with suppression of any opposition high on the list for an autocracy.
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But a Kremlin spokesman has denied any involvement and they've never heard of Salisbury so that wasn't them either. Honest guv, would Vlad's guys lie to you?Just confirmed that the Russian opposition leader in hospital in Berlin was poisoned with Novichok. That's a reasonable clue what Putin's end game is with suppression of any opposition high on the list for an autocracy.
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Niet.But a Kremlin spokesman has denied any involvement and they've never heard of Salisbury so that wasn't them either. Honest guv, would Vlad's guys lie to you?
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I think we are mistaken to think that Putin cares to cover this up. Is it really conceivable that a poison that is pretty difficult to control and deliver and has a chemical signature pretty specific to one Russian lab is the choice of a Russian govt being covert? Putin absolutely wants the West and his enemy to know who did it as that is his way of frightening anyone else thinking of turning traitor. The denial is deliberately not plausible. The message from that is not that they didn't do it, but rather that they don't give a fuck what you, me, twitter or any number of largely impotent Western govts think. He wants us to know, and he wants us to feel like he's laughing at us and telling us to fuck off.But a Kremlin spokesman has denied any involvement and they've never heard of Salisbury so that wasn't them either. Honest guv, would Vlad's guys lie to you?
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Correct, and as long as his stooge is in the White House there’s nothing anyone can do about it.I think we are mistaken to think that Putin cares to cover this up. Is it really conceivable that a poison that is pretty difficult to control and deliver and has a chemical signature pretty specific to one Russian lab is the choice of a Russian govt being covert? Putin absolutely wants the West and his enemy to know who did it as that is his way of frightening anyone else thinking of turning traitor. The denial is deliberately not plausible. The message from that is not that they didn't do it, but rather that they don't give a fuck what you, me, twitter or any number of largely impotent Western govts think. He wants us to know, and he wants us to feel like he's laughing at us and telling us to fuck off.
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Fucking great.
To the west we have a Cheeto faced fascist controlling elections to maintain his authoritarian power.
To the east we have a sociopathic despot who fixes elections to maintain power whilst killing his political rivals. Trying to rebuild 'The Motherland' at the same time.
And we're in the middle with an incompetent **** on power.
To the west we have a Cheeto faced fascist controlling elections to maintain his authoritarian power.
To the east we have a sociopathic despot who fixes elections to maintain power whilst killing his political rivals. Trying to rebuild 'The Motherland' at the same time.
And we're in the middle with an incompetent **** on power.