Queen Elizabeth II

[SWP's back]

Wearing black ties on BBC news already seems a little disrespectful.

Quite the opposite I’d say.

 

[twosips]

They feel strongly enough to post about it. I don’t feel strongly about WWE so I don’t post in those threads.

But I feel strongly about this too hence posting in this thread so not sure how that analogy relates to this? Only difference is mine is not the popular opinion. Fair enough.

 

[Nellies left peg]

You've got to be a special kind of **** to be pushing whatever opinions you have on the Royal family at this time.

I would suspect like my criticism of her children it was before the seriousness of the situation was clear when it was merely said she was under medical supervision. Now is not the time for that but we should shore sympathy for those who are likely to soon lose their mother Grandmother and great grand mother as losing family is not a good thing to go through and it appears more and more likely as this story gains momentum

 

[mac]

Nothing on this planet will bring us all together.....it's just how it is. Divided Britain.

After the Queen has passed the Royals are finished I think.

Not one of them commands any respect like The Queen does, for some of us.

My thoughts too. If royalists are still supporting the royals then it won't bother me. It doesn't affect me. It's the Queen that I have grown up with. People saying why are you bothered you have never met her. I've never met alot of ex City players but they are in my fabric

 

[inbetween]

This is a fundamental lack of understanding of how other countries work.

The last 6 years has shown the concept of a Royal Head of State to be completely unfit for purpose. In a normal country with a prime minister and president/chancellor/other elected head of state there is a check on the power of the PM. There is a counterbalance, another voice, someone who takes a long term view of running the country vs. the short term government just looking at the next election. Part of the reason we are in the mess we are in is because Britains head of state has been MIA while Johnson and co. burned everything to the ground.

Now that's not Elizabeth Windsor's fault, but that anyone could think the country has been well served by having a head of state that abstains from running the state is tragic really.

I'm not really interested in how other countries work because that is not how it works in the UK.

I don't think you understand how our governmental system works, it would be completely out of the ordinary and unconstitutional for the Queen to interfere no matter how much she agreed or disagreed. The whole point of her position is that she has no opinion and she doesn't get involved in politics.

The reason for this is whether you're right and whether we're actually even in a mess is just your opinion. The current government was elected and is doing as it's doing because it was elected to do so whether rightly or wrongly. If you have a problem with this government then in 2 years time you'll get your chance to get rid of them because that's how it works. The Queen represents this process, she doesn't represent who is in power.

As I've said in another reply, don't confuse politics with the head of state, they're completely different things. You can't just judge a head of state because they didn't act against something you personally disagree with. The reason why is there will be many in the country who think the opposite to you and their opinions are just as important.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

But I feel strongly about this too hence posting in this thread so not sure how that analogy relates to this? Only difference is mine is not the popular opinion. Fair enough.

Whatever you feel, it’s the most prominent British public figure dying.

Now probably isn’t the time for the debate about her worth to society.

 

[Silvercloud]

Always had reserved thoughts of a couple of posters on here and one in particular has just nailed his hat to the mast suspicions about him.
There's a time and place to discuss the rights and wrongs about having a Monarchy, and whether we need one anymore (for clarity, I don't. Coming from an ex squaddie and ex copper, she's been my boss for over 30 years) and today isn't it.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Whatever you feel, it’s the most prominent British public figure dying.

Now probably isn’t the time for the debate about her worth to society .

exactly...it's just not the time.

Save it for later and show some respect. It isn't difficult.

 

[SWP's back]

You've got to be a special kind of **** to be pushing whatever opinions you have on the Royal family at this time.

There’s a few that specialise in it.

At least none have asked if they should do a watch-along to the BBC News Special about her health.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I'm not really interested in how other countries work because that is not how it works in the UK.

I don't think you understand how our governmental system works, it would be completely out of the ordinary and unconstitutional for the Queen to interfere no matter how much she agreed or disagreed. The whole point of her position is that she has no opinion and she doesn't get involved in politics.

The reason for this is whether you're right and whether we're actually even in a mess is just your opinion. The current government was elected and is doing as it's doing because it was elected to do so whether rightly or wrongly. If you have a problem with this government then in 2 years time you'll get your chance to get rid of them because that's how it works. The Queen represents this process, she doesn't represent who is in power.

As I've said in another reply, don't confuse politics with the head of state, they're completely different things. You can't just judge a head of state because they didn't act against something you personally disagree with. The reason why is there will be many in the country who think the opposite to you and that is just as important.

Not sure you arguing against anything he said there, seems strongly implied that he acknowledges she doesn't get to make decisions.